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Has Australia got it right?
I was emailed this a few months ago. I'd forgot about it, but the whole Question Time debate brought it back to mind.

This is a genuine statement issued by Australian PM Kevin Rudd.

As he got it right? What do you think of his view?

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

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'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
I agree with every word of that. Well said. I only wish it applied to the bloody UK too.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
That's fucking brilliant.

Shame Cameron can't come out with something like that when he gets in next year.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Spot on. Shame our Government doesn't make the same speech for this country as i'm sure thats what the majority would wanna say!
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Seen that before, absolutely spot on.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
It could be a case of quotes being taken out of context, but...

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture

I agree with this. You move to another country you should try your best to fit in and adapt to their culture. However...

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks

This, i'm not so sure about though. You can't kick someone out of a country just because of their religion. Although i don't exactly know what 'living under Islamic Sharia law' entails....can anyone fill me in?
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Although i don't exactly know what 'living under Islamic Sharia law' entails....can anyone fill me in?

No, I'd like to know more about this actually....
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Although i don't exactly know what 'living under Islamic Sharia law' entails....can anyone fill me in?

en.wikipedia.org
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
A load of crap

More rehtoric

Do you feel undervalued?
Do you feel like you don't have a fair say?
well Group X <1930s - jew, 1960s - black, 2000 - muslim> need to change
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
it means those people want to be able to live under a different legal system to the rest of the country, a legal system founded in the middle east on islamic principles. it would mean they are exempt from standard laws and bound by their own legal framework. it's bollocks basically. if you can't live by the law of the land you chose to be in, fuck off.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
it means those people want to be able to live under a different legal system to the rest of the country, a legal system founded in the middle east on islamic principles. it would mean they are exempt from standard laws and bound by their own legal framework. it's bollocks basically. if you can't live by the law of the land you chose to be in, fuck off.

Ok, is there anything that we/Australians would class as illegal, that under Sharia Law is legal?
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Are you all experiencing a very bad case of 'roid rage? Or am i just going a bit crazy.... I mean wut!?

Like seriously why is everyone so scared and angry.



Really....
Jews 1930... what happened around then?? some kind of global crisis.... erm something i dunno anyway on to
1960 black people, some kind of global crisis going on what was it what was it.... eeeeerm
1980 gay folk in the cross hairs and there was some kind of super virus that you could get just from breathing the same air as infected people..... what was it anyway so what's kicking off in 2000?
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
it's not that exactly, it's the legal framework behind politics, finance, etc etc. it's not as if murder is legal (except in the case of honour killings obviously). i'm no expert tbh lol... that was an overview.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Ok, is there anything that we/Australians would class as illegal, that under Sharia Law is legal?

They beat their wives for a start.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
F-Jordan said:
Really....
Jews 1930... what happened around then?? some kind of global crisis.... erm something i dunno anyway on to
1960 black people, some kind of global crisis going on what was it what was it.... eeeeerm
1980 gay folk in the cross hairs and there was some kind of super virus that you could get just from breathing the same air as infected people..... what was it anyway so what's kicking off in 2000?

It's not against muslims colour though is it. It's the muslim faith itself.
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
Ok, is there anything that we/Australians would class as illegal, that under Sharia Law is legal?

In Sharia law i think its acceptable to marry up to 3 of your friends wives if they go off to fight a war as part of the whole you should look after them. But yeah I think Turkey do it but they keep updating theirs... i think and they strip out all the tribal shit, like stoning to death and such.

still with only 4% of the UK population it's not exactly going to happen anytime ever
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
They beat their wives for a start.

Not legal
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
It's not against muslims colour though is it. It's the muslim faith itself.

muslims dont have a colour, just like jews and gays don't. They are just groups that were targeted at various times of unrest and uncertainty
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
except in the case of honour killings obviousl

WTF
not legal
tribal issue, happens in non-muslim countries too
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Posted Thu 22 Oct
They beat their wives for a start

Ok, well if under Sharia Law that is legal, then yeah, i wouldn't want people living in my country under that law either. Kick them out.

it's not that exactly, it's the legal framework behind politics, finance, etc etc. it's not as if murder is legal (except in the case of honour killings obviously). i'm no expert tbh lol... that was an overview.

That's fine, i understand that. I was just looking for an example of why living under Sharia Law was so bad in another country, and finding something we would class as illegal that would be classed as legal under Sharia Law was the simplest way...
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Posted Thu 22 Oct

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