Need to tap your bountiful knowledge of music torrent sites (can be sites that have other torrents, but are possibly well known for music- Demonoid as a possible example) as well as any recent prosecutions of torrent sites or big news stories that have been in the press recently. As an examples Piratebay.

Any suggestions please do post below. Cheers.

The guy from filesoup (torrent network) got hammered the other day, it's the newest bit of info i have heard of torrent sites gettting done.

hotfile is the new kid on the block , they pay you to share . some people are reported to be making a good living off the site

hotfile.com

im going to laugh my ass off when itunes turns off their DRM servers in years to come :P as a recent Us judge said that the buyer should not expect the record company to keep alive the DRM licence server alive forever.

these new p2p clients, are they securely encrypted connections to get around deep packet inspection?

whats DRM servers?

Digital Rights Management

has anyone on here fallen foul with p2p and their ISPs traffic shaping? i know virgin on their 50mbs service employ traffic shaping to throttle p2p protocols. & if so what client were they using?

i think everyone is on a throttle then as nobody gets what they advertise.

the broadband providers are making a living off people downloading stuff , they will target a few people and make examples out of them in the media to scare people but most of it they turn a blind eye to . if bootleg bill wants to download shitty low quality pirate movies to watch and is paying top dollar for his broadband and full tv package then they are going to take the money or he will move to somebody else and give them his monthly payments

I have had an email once saying I was sharing banned content and asked to stop, so I just use Rapidshare for everything these days and not had any problems since.

If you're not sharing there is no point going after you, and the speed kicks ass against torrents. Max your connection every time instantly.

And that's the hypocrisy. They created the internet, this free network of information, then imposed standards by which we must use it. And yet the service providers are free to offer faster and cheaper broadband. The exact thing that makes piracy so tempting. People assume that to do something illegally you've got to find something difficult. There's nothing difficult about torrents or file sharing.

Cheers for the hotfile. Never heard of that one. Is the making money from sharing a new thing? Obviously we have the paid service sites now, specifically Napster, but that's clearly never going to story piracy. And most of those people wouldn't even see what they're doing as piracy, compared to someone selling burned CDs/DVDs in a pub.

Where do you see things going in the future? Can you regulate piracy?

I expect you've seen this before, but just in case:

vimeo.com

Matt Mason on the Pirate's Dilemma.

Ahhh nice one. It's an interesting topic. Anything else guys?

sites like rapidshare have been making money off us getting premium accounts for years and rewards you with points which can be converted to extend accounts,

hot file is similar but you get dollars instead of points which they will pay into your paypal account every month.

if you go on the blogs these days you will see more and more links for hotfile as people are making good money from it, especially the music guys who are uploading the scene releases and unreleased records

techitdown.blogspot.com

watched that this morning. impressive stuff. esp the 3d printing stuff. awesome to think that they can actually print with resin an actual pair of football boots that are better then anything else! would always have thought printed stuff would be less robust.

Yeah, that Matt Mason stuff is fascinating. I went onto his blog and he had a clip from a conference that related directly to the music/piracy debate and made the point about how the younger generation had pretty much grown up knowing nothing but piracy. They certainly won't have experienced independent record stores and probably find the homogenised feel of chains as a bit limiting. So what do you do about kids like that? Clearly you can't stop them from pirating unless you prosecute them all- not going to happen. Or maybe, prove that you're bankrupting the artist- nooooo, especially with other revenue streams. So, there's little chance you can tell them to stop pirating. Instead you work with that environment.

Seems that he's looking at granddaddy of subscription services and cure will be to make them more attractive. I still find it funny programs like Napster and Kazaa are now some of the worst for giving piss poor service- tracks you can download and then only play if you're keeping up with your subscription. Even iTunes supposed removal of DRM etc is not completely true. The idea that I'm buying an album only to find out it won't work on one particular mp3 player is a joke. And feeling defrauded and fucked over is what will just send people back to pirating.


Hah, it's interesting. What do the industry groups do when their members are causing the exact problem they're trying to prevent?

Interesting thing that popped up in my Twitter this week. Thought I'd throw it into this thread:

Q&A: Why the UK needs the Pirate Party
www.pcpro.co.uk/news/interviews/350728/q-a-why-the-uk-needs-the-pirate-party

wont you eventually get traced and fucked for that?

yeah but they concentrating on downloaders , i have heard of people making $1000 a week uploading music . as long as you dont download yourself your safe , as all you say is your using online storage and somebody must of got your download links or hacked your account which can be easily set up to cover your arse.

i for example could buy a beatport top 10 dj tracklist every month , upload and get 1000's of hits making huge profits on my original purchase.

i can then technically from my original £13 investment download music illegally , legally , if you get me. buying from legit sites with profit i have made of hotfile. for every one legal is hundreds of illegal downloads

that's how the pirate scene is at the moment , more than just some kids downloading a few tracks. the pirates are always one step ahead and will be for a long time

in the movie industry dvd screeners are always getting leaked , people will always be tempted by backhanders. some big money being offered for screeners and workprints.

bruno dvd screener with nfo image asking for people with contact of workprints and screeners to get in contact

divxturka.net


same with music , there are people at the labels and download sites who will leak music out for a bit of extra cash.

some artists will also leak there work out behind labels just because they know that these days file sharing will get your music heard by more people and out there a lot quicker.

the days of the multimillion pound recording artists are over.

music industry needs to change its business model, streaming is the future but that will also be hacked.

in 5 years time the debate will be about people on spotify and last fm illegally lol

Fish i still think your a serious warez whore.