Hi people,

we need a dj tonight to play at Ministry of Sound (Baby Box)

Huge opportunity, needs to be house / prog, please email djh3000@hotmail.co.uk if interested

Lineup: Sander van Doorn / Fergie / Kate Lawler / Riley & Durrant

Cheers

What if you only sell 14?

No play?

Its only 15 tickets? =/

This starting to become a joke now. I have spent 10k on my studio, well over another 20k on music and dj equipment. How do you pay of these costs if you are having to pay to dj everywhere. I think talent has gone out the window these days. People would rather book some one who cant mix but brings 1000 mates to some one who can come down and work the crowd, and make the place bounce. I have promoted loads of events and I have never asked my dj's to sell tickets. I booked fresh talent all the time. I dont care how many tickets the sell or who they bring I just want them to work the room.....

Supply and demand... there are 1000s of DJs around and not enough gigs for them all to play so the value of a DJ drops - to pretty much fuck all, or even a negative value.

So few DJs do anything original enough to stand out so how can you expect a promoter to choose them over the guy willing to sell his soul for the gig?


Not saying I agree with it - promoters wouldn't have to go to these lengths if they found skilled staff to sell enough tickets for them in the first place... why promoters decide that a DJ is going to be the best salesman they can hire is beyond me - just get some talented salesmen on board like a company in any other industry would, put them on a commission basis and you'll sell your tickets a lot more easily than relying on some mug with a pair of decks and no common sense dragging all of his mates out.

Well when i see this i thought it was a wind up last min Dj at the ministry would have thought they would have a bench full of subs gaging to play there what good dj in there right mind would whos worked hard to build up a following for some thing they love to do sel tickets to play for some one and get paid 75 quid which they would have earnt selling your tickets so at the end of the day they play for nowt ? nice promoter see why your strugling to get people to play for you

AveryDJs have sent emails out before about gigs at Ministry.

I sent an email with a promo mix I did specifically for them (which actually took me the best part of a day to prepare). I received an email back saying to email someone at The Gallery. I did that then got a response pretty much exactly like the original post of this thread. Unlikely they even listened to the mix.

A fucking joke, quite frankly, and I, along hopefully with others who presumably put in some hard work to send mixes to AveryDJs, will ignore any of their requests for last minute DJs particularly if terms like these are attached.

If this is a taste of the London scene, it seems the only way to get a gig is to start your own night. We truly are spoilt here - DJs in LA, for example, who aren't half as good as the talent in London will get gigs pretty much immediately and get paid US$1000 for a 5 hour set.

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this is all very much the way the scene in London works......................but from what i have seen and heard, once you have "proved" yourself over a period of time, things get better at the big clubs/promotions and ticket sales are not looked at, as much. It appears, the whole ticket sales are needed for the first few months for the promotions until they prove that 1. they can provide quality DJ's and 2. can bring a crowd and generate a following.

It also seems as if its not the promoters fault, its the clubs that put this on the promoters and it just works its way down the chain. Not saying its right or i agree, just seems to be the way to game works in London!

think I'm moving to LA then...

I hear the cast of Spooks had to get all their mates to pay for a TV licence before the BBC would hire them...

Quite right, mate. Supply and demand innit. One of the disadvantages of being at the forefront of the electronic music scene. :-S

I can't help but wonder if the slot got filled (it must have been) and by whom, and not least how many damn tickets they sold!

I am glad everyone has laughed this idea off. I had a residency at Ministry, it started out "here is some tickets just sell as many as you can", then it moved onto "here is 50 tickets you need to sell at least 30". I did this for a year and then thought what am I doing?

I was spending more time trying to sell tickets than I was finding tunes or practicing. I became a promoter first, DJ second. My sound suffered, my friendships suffered. I called up the guy who was organising it and said no more. He said cool he can find many people that would sell tickets to play and moved on to someone who had virtually no DJ experience, but alot of friends and the cycle started again.

This chain needs to be broken. DJing costs, especially time, the more you do the more indepth you get the more time you spend and time is money when you are working so hard to produce sounds, practice find music no one else has, edit your tracks etc...

Anyway the story ends a little like this. I got back into practicing and searching for tunes. I have never been happier as a DJ. I have more time for producing and I am playing out pretty much the same amount. Don't be desperate, be happy.

i'm not being funny but this is nothing new, this has been going on for years and years and years and will continue, as long as DJs want to do it, it will continue

Nicely put, Stu-b.

one of those gigs, hope it all goes well but it is a scam realy. what is the promoter actualy promoting??? nothing, you are

Yep.