Feel the need to let off steam about something, or just life in general? Well do so here! Have a good rant. If you're good enough we'll all join in.

Now a quick apology. I'm sorry about the use of "gits" but I couldn't think of a suitable non-gender-specific term. Cantankerous old cows are more than welcome to join in.

Rules:

1. This is not the Abuse group.
If you just want to repeatedly abuse a specific person this is not the place for you. If however you want to have a general rant about, well, anything. Then please, step right in...


2. Obey the rules of DSI.
No racism, no homophobia. Anyone caught posting such WILL be banned from DSI.


3. Be articulate and eloquent.
Really. There is nothing more tedious and annoying than trying to read the inane text speak of a gibbering twat who hasn't yet worked out that posts on DSI are a) free, and b) not limited to 160 characters. (See? 219 characters)


4. Don't post quick responses to posts to merely say that you (dis)agree.
If you DON'T agree with a rant, then please post a counter-rant, rather than a simple "that's not true" or some other such waste of valuable electrons, photons and time (by all means post your counter-rant in the same thread). If you can only resort to pedantry about poor spelling and/or grammar when refuting someone's rant then you automatically lose.

If you DO agree with a rant then don't waste everyone's time by saying "Me too" or similar, just click "this made me laugh" If you really must post to congratulate someone in a thread on their ranting or counter-ranting then your congratulations must not use less than 50 words (see rule 3).


5. Read all the posts in a thread before you reply.
Any comments that have obviously been posted before someone has read an entire thread and so just repeat what someone else has said will be deleted. Please do people the courtesy of reading their posts before adding to a thread.


6. Inability to follow these rules is liable to a) get you banned from the group and b) leave you open to a huge rant about how some people can't even be bothered to show the common courtesy of following the rules of the group.
7. There is no "closed season" on TV chefs. Every day is the glorious 12th as far as those wankers are concerned.
8. Try to be tasteful.
9. Always, always, always, try to be funny. Even when you can't be.

The sort of thing you should aspire to...

The bible

This is a great idea Iain, I think we all need to steam out something one way or another and it'll be a perfect "group therapy", yet I have some questions though.

1 How personal can a rant be? Or we need to create a fictitious parallel projection of the issue in question before launching a thread.

2 I am not too sure about the degree level of grammar expected. Since English is my second language, unfortunately my composition is about to be as good as it gets and it's more likely to have the odd sentence now and again. Is it still valid?

1 How personal can a rant be? Or we need to create a fictitious parallel projection of the issue in question before launching a thread.

You can be as personal as you want as long as you don't stray into the realms of libel. Which is a good point - I should add something about that into the group rules. However, whenever you post please bear in mind rule 1. If your post would "fit" better in the abuse group then please make it there.

2 I am not too sure about the degree level of grammar expected. Since English is my second language, unfortunately my composition is about to be as good as it gets and it's more likely to have the odd sentence now and again. Is it still valid?

It is valid, if it's done in the heat of the moment, as long as you don't use txtspk (which is unforgivable unless you are ranting about it and using some as an example of that hideous plague). However a good rant is all about style. Microsoft, Openoffice.org and many other organisations have spent large amounts of time and effort creating software that can check both your spelling AND grammar, it would be best if you took advantage of this.

It is valid, if it's done in the heat of the moment, as long as you don't use txtspk (which is unforgivable unless you are ranting about it and using some as an example of that hideous plague). However a good rant is all about style. Microsoft, Openoffice.org and many other organisations have spent large amounts of time and effort creating software that can check both your spelling AND grammar, it would be best if you took advantage of this.

1..i totally disagree with this comment,it is a blatent advertisemant for a non relatedadvertisement for your software developement skills,and should not be mentioned in this group under your own group rules. further more
Obey the rules of DSI.
No racism, no homophobia. Anyone caught posting such WILL be banned from DSI.

2 .using this software is offensive against people using dsi who were not born in the uk..
i was born in the uk but travel extensively and have many many friends from other nationalities who use dsi but might like to term a phrase in the own language..ie if i were to say to you.."yapyadiola" would my language be brought into disrepute because i cant use YOUR developed software.
further more i might wish to say to you!"cala boca cabeca de camarao"..would this be ok even tough you dont have a clue what i am talking about .or do you..??

just out of interrest..???

3.just because i'm ols and once or twice have been called cantankerous.does not mean that the term cantankerous olg git would apply and could be considered by many to be an agest comment,under current government legilastion..article 45467 para:67 you are liable to prosecution and may well be told offf bigg time for being agest..with this in mind are you sure you wish to proceed with such a provocative group name..??

1..i totally disagree with this comment,it is a blatent advertisemant for a non relatedadvertisement for your software developement skills,and should not be mentioned in this group under your own group rules. further more

Nope, I don't work for either of the organisations mentioned. The software development I perform is usually for embedded environments. I do html for fun. This is a non-argument.

2 .using this software is offensive against people using dsi who were not born in the uk..

No it's not - it is an OPTION to help them get their point across on a website where the lingua franca is English. You'll note that I didn't say that use of the software was compulsory (besides there is no way to tell if it has been used or not), just that it would be best if people unsure of the level of their English used it. This again is a non-argument.

ie if i were to say to you.."yapyadiola" would my language be brought into disrepute because i cant use YOUR developed software.
further more i might wish to say to you!"cala boca cabeca de camarao"..would this be ok even tough you dont have a clue what i am talking about .or do you..??

Well, leaving aside the non-fact of "my developed software". I do understand what you are saying since I speak 6 languages other than English. For a start, I'm not English myself. However the majority of people on this website speak English in the public forums and groups.

If you want to speak another language, go ahead, but most people here will a) not understand you, b) think "twat", and c) click "ignore this topic". Which doesn't really help you get yoru point across. Of course, I am assuming that you have a point to get across, because up until now you haven't.

Of course, you might have a point here that's worth expanding upon - the Anglophone "imperialism" of modern life. If you want to have a rant about how people on the internet (and elsewhere) always seem to use English rather than any other language you are welcome to start a rant about it in a new topic.

3.just because i'm ols and once or twice have been called cantankerous.does not mean that the term cantankerous olg git would apply and could be considered by many to be an agest comment,under current government legilastion..article 45467 para:67 you are liable to prosecution and may well be told offf bigg time for being agest.

Making up legislation does not make it real. I have classed myself as a cantankerous old git in setting up this group, and by joining the group so have you. Joining this group is not compulsory and neither is reading it, unless, of course, the NSA/CIA have come up with some new-fangled utterly devious means of torture that involves the forced reading of webpages.

Try something for me - shut your eyes for a slow count of 5. Back again? Good. Did you notice how the whole website vanished from your life for about 5 seconds? Remarkable, eh?

No-one has said - YOU MUST JOIN COG. Oh, and for what it's worth SI 2006/1031 is The Employment Equality (Age) Regulations. I'm not paying anyone to be here, therefore I am not an employer and the regulations don't apply. Yet another non-argument.

I always use spell check before I post any comment - Apart of, as you very well said, when I have done it in the heat of the moment (which more than always means very little, really!); however I have been very good lately. I try not to make the same mistake twice (when possible!!)

Thanks for the clarification Iain.

I'm in!!

I always use spell check before I post any comment - Apart of, as you very well said, when I have done it in the heat of the moment (which more than always means very little, really!); however I have been very good lately. I try not to make the same mistake twice (when possible!!)

Thanks for the clarification Iain.

I'm in!!

i think you missed out part of your sentance at the biggining,spell check is fine if you want to use it but when you get old you should take the time to look over you comments and make sure your sentance makes sense BEFORE you do the spell check,and this is part of the problem with spell check..it gives you a false sense of security.

i think you meant tp put "apart from" not "apart of"

but when you get old you should take the time to look over you comments and make sure your sentance makes sense BEFORE you do the spell check,and this is part of the problem with spell check..it gives you a false sense of security.

i think you meant tp put "apart from" not "apart of"

I know exactly what you mean! That's why I asked first! I am aware that spell check can only do so much for me, yet most of the times what I write makes sense to me! I can only do so much. In any case it doesn't put me off speaking my mind and getting involved in discussions though. I just love it! I had a real good fun!!

Ps: I'm not a spring chicken myself!

Ps: I'm not a spring chicken myself!
yes..thankyou,i had already worked that out myself..lol

yes..thankyou,i had already worked that out myself..lol

I'm glad!! lol

this is part of the problem with spell check..it gives you a false sense of security.

Also spell checkers are not commonly called spill chickens (and other variants of valid words) for nothing. They guess at the word you want, not from context, but from the pattern of letters within the word. The person who is first to create a context-senstive spool cheiftan will become either very, very rich or very, very dead*. The only problem is that to do so requires the creation of a genuine artificial intelligence that is able to learn languages. That is not a trivial task.

*That is the point where we achieve something along the lines of Data from Star Trek: TNG, or, SkyNet from Terminator. The latter would probably be a bad thing.

I'm glad!! lol
this is not the correct group for your last comment,already you are breaking the rules and bringing the group into disrepute..please post your last comment in the "i'm glad" group or the "lol" group
thankyou

already you are breaking the rules and bringing the group into disrepute..

I don't know about "disrepute", but yes, please try to obey rule 4 (try not to post using less than 50 words) and the other group rules at all times! DSI has gone to the trouble of providing a link you can use to show when something makes you laugh. --------------------------->

I don't know about "disrepute",
surely as the moderator for this group you SHOULD know.its ok for anyone to start a new group on dsi and that is a feedom we all enjoy,but when you set up your own group with very specific rules you should in my oppionion be sure about such rules yoursels and to simply start a reply by saying
I don't know about "disrepute",
is not accecptable to the rest of the group members..or maybe i am wrong,would the other group members please give me their thoughts on this matter..?

is not accecptable to the rest of the group members..or maybe i am wrong

There is a very short answer to this which is as follows: Well, this is a new group. As such it has no reputution at all. Therefore it is very, very, difficult to bring it into disrepute. By definition. Hence my response of "I don't know about disrepute".

A longer answer is: But one person breaking a rule once doesn't bring the group into disrepute anyway, it is more likely to bring the person breaking the rule into disrepute. Unless of course the person has a reputation for breaking rules, in which case it would actually reinforce their reputation rather than bring it into disrepute.

The only way that a group or other entity can be brought into disrepute is if it builds up a good reputation that is subsequently lost. Try looking up disrepute in a dictionary, I think you'll find it will say something along the lines of: Damage to or loss of reputation.

Please feel free to keep trying to make non-points based on faulty premises and made up "facts", however I'm off out now.

ps To the person that just texted me telling me to stop making Bigggpaul look like an idiot, I'm not making him look like an idiot. I'm just helping him to complete the job himself.

that was me texting you and if you read the text correctly it says"stop ...bigggpaul is making you look like an idiot"..take time..relax..read the message without rushing into a quick incorrect response.
:-)

p.s. i thought this was not an insult group.. ;-0

p.s. i thought this was not an insult group.. ;-0

Correct. Specially since Iain C IS NOT an idiot. Far from it.

My deepest condolence...

you obviously did not read his comment..did you..???

go back to his last comment..he has started the insult..

if he post rules for his group and then breaks them himself..
well..theres only one conclusision.
so if you are of the understanding that hi is not an idiot..you have my deepest condolences.

Sorry but I honestly don't care about technicalities. Sometimes the insult doesn't need to be expressed with 'a name' but with poor comments so, maybe you need to reconsider who started it and who is the one who deserves pettiness.

Ps: The fact that Ian C is far from being an idiot is not something I feel the need to convice you of

can some one please tell me why this "biggg paul" guy as joined???