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Pioneer CDJ 400
Bought two the other day, just managed to eat and sleep, quite addictive little things, the effects are surprisingly good and easy to use, the vinyl emulation isnt as good as the one on the CDJ1000, but still very user friendly, the hot loop and beat divide function are the jewel in its crown though, love this function, recomend this 2 anyone who is considering buying one.
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Posted Sun 30 Dec 2007
Cheers for the review. Only just found out about these the other day and they look like a decent alternative for broke people like myself who can;t afford the 800s lol!
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Posted Mon 31 Dec 2007
hate to sound like a broken record but why don't you get serato instead? it's much cheaper than one CDJ400, let alone a pair........
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Posted Mon 31 Dec 2007
But seeing as I've not got vinyl decks or a mixer the cost of those AND Scratch would be about the same as getting 400s and a mixer I reckon. Like the look of Scratch though, a mate of mine has it and says it's class.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
good point. you can get used decks pretty cheap now though or easily borrow some from a pal who's moved to CDs.

i'd stil have the CDJ800mk2 over the CDJ400 - they are much closer to the feel of the CDJ1000s which is what you'll find in the clubs.

my friend did the promo videos for the CDJ400 and she said it's good, but not really good enough for clubs.....
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
has anyone seen dandyjack by the way? saw him last night and he was wicked.

think it was all on ableton but i couldn't say for sure.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
Hang about. Just looked at the price for the 400's and they are retailing at £449 with the 800's going for £515??? Am I just being cynical or is that a bit of a rip off? I thought they would go for about £350 or something and then they drop the price of the 200's.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
they very rarely drop prices - they just want to expand the range.

they want people to see the new features as must haves and just encourage people to get buying. that's probably why they keep the 6% pitch off of the CDJ800 - it gives people a reason to look elsewhere in the range if they think it's important.

there's no way i'd buy the CDJ400 when you can have a CDJ with a proper weighted platter for only £70 more. they are all way too expensive anyway though.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
they are all way too expensive anyway though.

I agree with that. Sadly as industry standard Pioneer can pretty much charge what they feel like, as CD decks are the most commonly used DJing equipment. Prices of Technics turntables didn't really drop until the rise of the CDJ either...
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
technics turntables are underpriced if anything. there's no other modern product that solid that you could buy for that money. i wouldn't mind the price of the CDJs so much if they were a bit tougher.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
i wouldn't mind the price of the CDJs so much if they were a bit tougher.

I agree with that. I've had my CDJ800s Mk1s for only a couple of years and they've only seen home use but, in that time, I've had to replace the laser on one of them (£100) and now the second one looks like it might not be maintaining the BPM as it sometimes skips faster then goes back to the original pitch according to the BPM counter (e.g. a constant 128 skips to 132 then back to 128 and maintains it on that during a part of the song with a strong kick drum).
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there's no way i'd buy the CDJ400 when you can have a CDJ with a proper weighted platter for only £70 more.

Yeah I hear that. It'd be like practising on a moped to ride a full blown motorbike. It does suck that they have such a monopoly on the industry. I've not played anywhere that has the Denon equivalents which means they are either shite or that they aren't marketing themselves properly and I'm also surprised that Technics don't have more of a range available in the CDJ category.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
i really wanted to like the denons but i just couldn't. i used them a couple of times at bora bora and absolutely hated them. the platter is way too light and oversensitive - you have to use the pitch buttons instead and that's no different to using a double deck. having a moving platter is great for scratching & cueing though.

i've used the technics a few times and they were actually pretty good. i think the main problem is that they had a few firmware problems when they first came out and that put people off.

the one that gets forgotten is the numark CDX - really good and really solid too.
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Posted Wed 02 Jan
hate to sound like a broken record but why don't you get serato instead? it's much cheaper than one CDJ400, let alone a pair........

Dont really like digital DJin, looks kinda shit a hardstyle/tec trance dj staring at a computer screen lol.
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Posted Sat 05 Jan
Dont really like digital DJin, looks kinda shit a hardstyle/tec trance dj staring at a computer screen lol.

You continue to use vinyl and Serato allows any MP3/WAV etc. to be applied to it as if you'd bought the record. It's quite amazing. Check out the review.
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Posted Sat 05 Jan
Dont really like digital DJin, looks kinda shit a hardstyle/tec trance dj staring at a computer screen lol.

he's right. you just select tunes on your laptop instead of your record box or CD wallet - the rest of the process is the same. except you spend more time on mixing and less on finding tracks.....
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Posted Sat 05 Jan
Hang about. Just looked at the price for the 400's and they are retailing at £449 with the 800's going for £515??? Am I just being cynical or is that a bit of a rip off? I thought they would go for about £350 or something and then they drop the price of the 200's.

Iv spoke with loadsa people who know their CDJs inside out, and every single one has said "get 400's's"

Your getting so much more for you money, iv started using my memory sticks in the USB, really easy to navigate through all your songs and hassle free, burning CDs takes a while then you have to lable them all etc.

The effects iv finally started using in sets, takes a wee bit of getting used to, the beat divide function im going to mention again, purely because im a hard trance addict and its easy to chop up beats and throw them about, sounds shit hot when you use it.

What iv also noticed is the jog wheel is slightly more sensitive than any other CDJ, you notice this when you DJ on a 1000 and a 400 at the same time as I did at new year lol, great fun though.

Once again though, buy 400s over 800s, having DJ'd on both I can honestly say I much prefer the 400, feature wise the 400 kicks the shit out of the 800.
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Posted Sat 05 Jan
he's right. you just select tunes on your laptop instead of your record box or CD wallet - the rest of the process is the same. except you spend more time on mixing and less on finding tracks.....

Finding tracks vinyl wise is a pain in the ass, especially since I have so much of the stuff, had to divide them up into house, trance and hardstyle.

Iv had a shot on tracktor scratch, but never serato, seen alot of techno DJ's using it though and it looks fairly user friendly and a bit of fun, tracktor was ok but im told serato is better, I can always plug my 400s into my laptop USB and use serato that way. Not tried it yet though.
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Posted Sat 05 Jan
Read the review, I mean serato sounds dynamite on paper, I think it would be a bit annoying to set up though, people in Glasgow get slated for DJ'n digitally, when PvD used ableton on his set he was hounded.

Giusseppe ottaviani done a live set using ableton last week though, obviously playing massive trance breakdowns on a synth or whatever it was he used, and I have to say it was an amazing sight to watch, absoloutely rocked the arches when he came on, was something special to see someone do something like that.
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Posted Sat 05 Jan
people in Glasgow get slated for DJ'n digitally

Really? Even if they're actually using vinyl? You're getting the best of both worlds with Serato - cheapness and accessibility of digital media with the feel and manipulation of vinyl.
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