As asked for in an other thread here is some info on Piperazines and mixing them with MDxx.

For a more scientific explanation go to this link

Simply put....

CYP2D6 is the enzyme that breaks down both MDxx and Piperazines. Now when you take the two together they both inhibit the CYP2D6 from breaking down the other. As a consiquence neather realy get broken down and your body can't handle being intoxicated for that long as such. Its thought that taking the mdma first gives the worse results as its the stronger inhibiter.

When you combine all the factors invoved with a good night, drinking, drugs, lots of dancing, sometimes not enough water, etc... you are at a much greater risk of serious harm or possible death through shear exhaustion and over heating.

MDxx =
MDMA
MDA
MDEA

Piperazines =
BZP
TFMPP
cMPP
MDBP
MeOPP


As far as I am aware it is only illegal to sell piperazines in the UK, I believe possesion carrys no charge.

I have just realised that these AMAZING blue pills we've been doing could be BZP.

However, we usually only take one or two and then mix when another type as they tend to keep you awake for ages. Ive been ok (having done this about five or six times now) but I may have to rethink this...

How does BZP come up on the test? I need to get my arse in gear and go and buy a new one!

x

How does BZP come up on the test?

I've heard that if the test kit tests for methamphetamine (e.g. Simon's test), then it might show up as that due to some similarity. Otherwise (e.g. the basic Marquis test), then no reaction. (Robadope test, I'm not sure.)

Hmmm. That's definatly given me soemthing to think about. Thanks :-) x

Apparently A Smirf - It Looked Different From What I Usually Take - There Wasnt Anything Pressed On it..

Just Put It Away And Gona Get It Test It As And When I Can

Anyone Else Found Anything Simular?

I think I've had one of them, they're good! Have you tested it yet?

if your careful you can use bzp etc with other drugs you can get a longer high with less drugs
However this should be fucked with unless you know what your doing.

i had rockets last year and they were definately bzp or similar as i was very ill and i only had 4

The only time MDMA worked properly was when I had these, odd!

FUCK pills... only mdma for me.

piperazine pills do not show up in any test results and have no reaction. MDMA is the WAY

MDMA ALLL THE WAY THATS WHAT U WANT THATS WAT U PAY 4 ALL UR BZP IS JUST SHIT THAT WILL MAKE UR BELLY HURT

you like what you like, BZP I dont mind but it drives me nuts having to piss all the time. Do not snort, or if you want to test it that way, it burns like merry hell for a long time.
Yes you cant beat MDXX but like it cut up with a wee bit of Whizz or 2CB for a real treat. Take little and often and dont try and beat your limits!!
Do test on pill before buying, if your supplier wont allow you to do this then you know they are shite. then buy a few for the coming weeks if they are good. If everyone did this it would cure the shit pill problem over nite.
Normally anyone buying in the club is desperate, thats when you will get turned over normally.
Know your supplier, if he knows your going to come back then he is less likely to turn oyu over.

ketamine? hmmm!!

they dnt show on any test dependant on strength u mite get a lil fizzing and thts tht! Its mdma all the way for me had 2 lightenin bolts back in april and was fukin dyin throwin up shakin struggling to breath etc etc was not summit i want to go bk to thank god there is sumdecent mdma pills kncokin around

Like fuck is it