Whats the craic with this heard good reports any one had this surposse to be like mdma any one had this

You sound like a spoiled child

Nope I’m just doing my job, as far as I can see none of the other moderators are doing as much as me and until someone with higher authority comes and tells me otherwise I will enforce this rule as I see fit in line with the rules enforced on most other similar message boards.

I haven’t just had to delete posts concerning sources for illegal substances but also posts and even entire threads concerning phone numbers and other details for more illegal substances and as far as I'm concerned it comes under the same principle regardless of legality.

If you already have your sources then I don’t see why you are moaning, anyone that has access to this stuff wouldnt exactly like to see prices increase or a ban take place so why accelerate the situation? Personally I like my £5/g meph and I would very much like to keep it that way too.
If on the other hand you don’t have any sources then it takes very little time and effort to not only find multiple sources but those which are incredible cheap and even with free postage and packaging with next day delivery. The fact that a lot of people don’t make the effort to go out and do a little research, shop around and find things out for themselves is the reason why MDMA is more or less unavailable in this country… Because people are stupid enough to let themselves get ripped off and would rather take other peoples word for things than find facts out for themselves and educate themselves a little. If people actually knew what they were taking, how to tell the difference and where to get the good and bad stuff then dealers wouldn’t make such a big profit ripping people off with BZP shite and go back to providing the real deal.

This is the era of information and there is so much sitting just a short way away right at your fingertips, make a bit of effort and stop relying on other people.

Let me put this into another context that some people might understand as to why I will not allow the posting of links.

This is a topic that discuses the consumption of a legal substance right? The people who sell this substance clearly state on their sites as well as the product itself "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" obviously to cover their backs. At the moment there is no link between the discussion between people consuming this substance and the people selling it.
The moment a link is posted anyone reading this open message board (and I mean anyone being the media, government or law enforcement who may be researching this chemical and those who are using it) now see the link between the suppliers and the users realising the thread and moving things one step closer to either shutting down the site completely (after all they now have written proof that this substance “not intended for human consumption” is actually being consumed.) Or in the case of the media creating mass hysteria surrounding this new chemical and publishing it to the disapproving public who will call for this substance to be banned, after all any drug is a bad drug in the eyes of the media and it makes for a good story.

It is only a matter of time before somebody dies from taking this. This substance has not been researched, nobody truly knows the toxicology, short or long term mental and physical affects. Having seen and experienced myself some very nasty side affects and also addiction in other peoples case it will not be long before somebody over does it and again I can guarantee that there will be many posts and topics on the mentioned deaths both here and across the internet. Again posting links would create a link between the suppliers and discussions of this drug related death taking us back to step one where the government, law enforcement and media would use this link between the two to its advantage.

And of course there is the justification that the less people taking this, especially the stupid people (the ones who cant find things out for themselves) the less time it will take before somebody dies or seriously injures themselves from taking it.

I think iv provided enough reasons for my attitude towards this subject now, if anybody has anything else productive to add or any questions to ask feel free to post it.

It would also take very little effort for me to knock up a fake site offering the best prices with next day delivery, you seem to suggest that people can't be bothered to type the details into google when really most people would rather find a source somebody has already bought from to prove its validity.
Also if this has been on bbc program i think all the related people such as government, law enforcement etc are very well aware of it.

I have to say, I am one of those people who asked for a link and fair enough it may draw attention, but its already in the media and under the attention of government, etc!! I have found sources and info myself but the only reason I asked for a link (to be sent in a PM) is so that I don't get ripped of or end up being sent something that isn't what its meant to be!! Fair enough you don't want attention but is it not best to ask and be safe than just go ahead and order of some website that looks legite (excuse spelling) and then either get ripped off or sent something that isn't meth and causes you some serious harm and draws even more attention to the hole issue surrounding these 'legal' highs!!!

sorry but I do think you are maybe taking it a bit far, jusr becasue someone asks some for a link doesn't mean there lazy or stupid and going to OD, it shows that they are making the effort to find a reliable source and not get ripped off or possibly poisoned by someone who set up a website at home and is selling all kinds of things under false names!!

sorry just my opinion-really don't wana start a big debate over links but I just think you shouldn't assume that its people being stupid and lazy. Personally I've only asked so I dont end up taking to much or taking/being sent the wrong thing and causing myself some serious harm!!!

Have to disagree with that statement. There are lot's of forums out there where you can discuss such subjects. We live in a society of free speach which allows such discussion to take place without sensor.

I think it's stupid posting some of the stuff on here in an open forum!

NDL was for posting about drugs in a private forum where ppl could talk openly - this group was made as an open group so that warnings about pills could be available for all to read!

The police have been watching this site for years & i just think some ppl should have a bit of discretion, this site isn't even 18+

If you want to ask for links or share links, u would all be better off posting it as a private thread

The drug we are talking about isn't ilegal either so the police are not going to be that intrested.

I think all this talk of the police watching the site is urban myth. What do you think they'd find out that they dont already know ?

I seriously doubt there is a drug dealer out there who is going to advertise that fact in any forum or chat page do you...

The Police are quite aware that drugs and clubbing go hand in hand all they'd need do is raid a club and make the arrests they want if that's what they wanted to do. Knicking a few clubbers taking a few pills isn't who they want. It's the makers and importers of the drugs who they are after. And believe me, it's highly unlikely the people who do that chat away in the forums of DSi......

Yes you have provided reason but also very dictatorial. If you dont like a post then fine but deleting it is preventing free speach. Nobody has done anything illegal here. Your attitude is my way or the highway which does you or your group no favours. It's interesting that you are the only moderator of this group who deems it right to delete things. You do come across as very petulant.

it's currently legal, it won't stay that way for long when they realise that everybody's doing it - especially if someone manages to fuck up on it

Basically it's just my opinion that sometimes this group isn't as discreet as I believe it should be

This group was started for the purposes of Harm Reduction! Which this is not!

End of the day tho, it's up to the mods! - If you don't like it start up ur own group, with ur own rules!


Yes because one of the mods is doing their job! - Not all of them have the time to keep posting on here. It's not preventing free speech at all, there are a lot of mods who delete comments for no reason at all, even the admin from the site itself do it on some occasions!

You think it's preventing free speach? No ones stopping u from posting somewhere else, just have some respect for the group mod & dont post things they dont want in here

I’m not budging on this unless I am told by somebody with higher authority to change the way I am doing things.


Most forums on the subject of drugs do not allow any users to share links or sources or openly buy/sell drugs OR research chemicals regardless of legality, most of the sites also ban users from openly admitting they have consumed or possessed a substance themselves and instead use acronyms such as SWIM (Someone who isn’t me) or refer to themselves as a "friend." A lot of other forums and communities discussing subjects such as music, night life or completely unrelated subjects to what DSI is bad drug talk OUTRIGHT, you are lucky you are allowed to discuss this subject so openly but some moderation is still required.

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You would be very surprised by some of the posts and topics iv seen and deleted on here.


Yes I realise that but there is no need to draw even more attention to this substance or the people who are selling it.


If its against the rules or I decide it in any way an unsuitable post for whatever reason then I can and will delete it, I’m a moderator and that is my JOB I don’t care if it is taking your freedom of speech, if people want freedom of speech then don’t abuse it.


Thats because as far as I can tell I am the only active one, when was the last time you saw any of the other mods post? A few posts have been deleted by other mods but I dont see them post, at least I am informing people when I delete posts that I have deleted them and WHY I have deleted them rather than just getting rid of them without warning.


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Il take that as a compliment, thanks!

That is funny because i post on a number of other forums none of which related to clubbbing or drugs but they are quite happy to let you talk about what you like.

What and who's rules are you talking about ?

when u joined this group, as with every other group on DSI, u tick a box to agree to abide by the group rules - it's a fairly simple construct

Well yes, that's right, and looking at the rules I can see nothing that says numbers or links aren't allowed. Dsi rules make no mention of it either from what I can see... I am sure if I'm wrong then I will be corrected.

Further whinging is not going to get you anywhere, my stance on this subject will not be changed. this topic is now far off course and unless anybody has anything PRODUCTIVE to add then I will delete any further posts (whining) on the subject of source sharing and why you are not allowed to do so.

Any posts deleted due to further bitching prior to this post will be on the grounds that it is not contributing towards the original topic and discussion for which this topic and the group itself was intended for.

If you don’t like it you can create a separate topic elsewhere on DSI on what a mean cunt I am but as far as I am concerned this is a topic for the discussion of the substance mephredone not where you can get it, who you can get it from or why I wont let you share that information openly with other people so lets keep it that way.

In fact... Come to think about it this is the PILL REPORTS forum, discussing mephredone is not in any way a PILL REPORT or the discussions of PILLS so in theory this thread shouldn’t actually be allowed at all. For the moment il let this stay considering this is becoming a major adulterant to pills and MDMA and also used as an alternative for those who cant get pills or MDMA.

This stuff is amazing.. had the first g then bought 40 in the space of a week ( no i'm no waster it was one mad 9 day bender in spain for htid in the sun) amzing. a bit burny but if you compare that to snoting a pill it's a breeze.

Mowze... Have you ever thought of taking over the world ? a small coup somwhere just to get started, perhaps DSI... I'm not sure I've ever come across a MOD who is quite clearly a control freak and full of their own self importance.

This thread started with someone asking if anyone had experienced Mephodrone. There have been good and bad reports of people's experiences. Therefore the subject matter falls within the remit of the group. On reading of those experiences some people then asked where this research chemical was available.

People asking for links and numbers are looking to protect themselves from being ripped off. Surely if you have purchased something, whatever it may be and it has been a good experience. IE good price, speedy delivery and you got what you asked for. Then surely you would want others to know so they too could have the same experience. Likewise, if you have been ripped off then surely you have a duty of care to warn people not to buy from that person/group or company.

Before you say it.. Yes ! I am a mod in a group and none of my fellow Mods myslef included indulge in such censorship. Nothing that has been said in 'THIS' thread is illegal nor has there been anything said that is against Dsi policy come to that even the group rules from what I've seen.

As the only active MOD in the group if you dont want people to publish links numbers etc then shouldn't you put that in the group rules. Then you would be entirely justified deleting comments that breach those rules.....

I have decided to leave the group. I cannot and will not be dictated to as to what I can and cannot say. Esp when I have not made a comment that is deframatory/homophobic/racist... Oh ! and it saves you the job of banning me because I've stood up against what you stand for. Because we both know that's what you would have done.

thank god! - cos ur fucking doing my head in!!


I've met a lot tbf..... i wouldn't say he's one of them.

Don't forget to throw the rest of ur toys out the prom as u leave the group!