for the last couple of months it has been impossible to get hold of
real mdma or any pills with mdma in them, its all this fake trippy
crystals. but its not just my area its happening all over the country
apparently, i wanted to know if anyone out there is getting the same
as me. it seems like theres going to be an era of synthetic drugs all
pretending to be something there not. is it me or does anyone else
think that ecstasy has been completley wiped off the map??

Think ya right there mate, there is some half decent ones round here though (Manchester) dont think its proper stuff though so stopped havin it as much, even though I only have stuff when am ravin

yea it's pretty dry at the mo ... apparently one of the components of mdma is very very hard to get hold of at the moment, so the greedy sods make it all up without this particular chemicle.. and that's what makes that dirty fake mdma. or else you get that re-presed stuff where they add F knows what other crap to it. can tell the stuff that's gonna be shitter coz it's more powdery with only a few little bits of crystal in it ... the nicer stuff is in big rocks

i gave up pills a couple of years ago and have only done mdma but i have promised myself that as soon as mdma gets as hit and miss as pills, then i will give it all up totaly... looks like it is well on the way. ahh well... looks like it's coming to the end of an era

yer think ya right buds.... been doin them for like ever & the last few weeks i've just been bgettin stomach aches, real bad pains... gettin a bit mashed on them tooo, but nothing like i used too, dont really wanna gett up & dance the nite away just sit & chill really...sucks butt crack...i say...!!!

we have been gettign smileys from there delivered to wales and they are pretty good .

Yeah Smileys & Love Hearts around Manc at mo which are okay

There are certain components that have been made illegal to sell whereas previously you could order all the ingredients off the internet, so there hasnt been any good crystals for ages, the pills were bad enough anyway but this has obviously made them even shitter.

Someone needs to sort out a big batch of some decent smarties and make a lot of cash cos ppl would pay £3-4 each wholesale if they were decent as theres nothing around atm.

I would happily pay more for great quality, shame about MDMA these days, It's been like this for a long time now, ever since those rockets came about. Luckily can get smileys or hearts in Manchester as others have said. I Miss good MDMA though, Can only hope things get better, but the problem is that most people aren't even aware of the problem, and will just eat any pill aslong as it fucks em up :( I refuse to buy all that piperazine shit.

its been months since weve managed to get anything that hasnt made us sick/trippy/weirded out.....im so wound up with all of this fake stuff ....some people are fine on it ...i have mates that happily bosh all those rank fake pills ......thats why i doubt real mandy will make a comeback ....but for a few people its nasty shit ....put me off doing any mdma anymore ....pretty gutting ....

Seriously get yourself a test kit. I havent done a dodgy pill or MD in a long time since I got one. Also get your mates to STOP buying shit. Refuse it, only way to ever stop the crap being sold. Dealers get left with a load of it all the time they will soon get the message. Shame it will never happen as people will just continue to buy shite cause its there and nothing else is available

i wish people wouldnt be so fucking greedy and start producing some
proper shit, this doesnt happen in any other country just this one.
even in ireland all there gear is what it says on the tin.
what has happend, seems to all have gone tits up in the last 2 months

We have had this conversation a thousand times now. Test kits mean shit topay as MDMA is dry anyway. If you choose to buy four beans for a tenner there aint gonna be mandy in em. As for lovehearts etc they are all BZP. Anything at that value is bzp. Bzp is ok if you drop one everyhour with a wee bomb of speed but you aint going to bed and your gonna have a humdinger of a headache when you eventtually wake up. Start looking around, see what you can mix up, play chemist yourselves, look at legal highs, doves etc, read up about ghb, there are lots of chemicals out there people but read up first. Anyone looking at the G route, read first, no alcohol people, it dont mix but its a cracker. I mix no end today, but do it in moderation till you find your limit. Problem today is everyone is in such a rush, chill out for a bit and come up nice slow and steady, sometimes you dont even realise your wrecked till you notice you have been dancing ya arse off for four hours. Enjoy the scene 100% and let the drug take you to 120%. It is the scene we love and dont let the drug take that over, if you cant go out with out being pilled then look at the events your going too. Ya friends and the music is your high.

Rave safe.

here here

there there

I really, really wouldn't recommend anyone to do G. If you are considering doing it, please be aware that it's VERY easy to overdose, it's very addictive, and clubland has lost way too many people to G over the last few years. Don't do it.

ok but its perfectly ok to stick ten pills down your throat that you have no idea where they came from? Or a couple of lins of Vim which is supposed to be sniff or a 2 inch line of sniff that is actually K? As said above until people plan on what they are taking or work out how to take what they are taking everything is irrelevant, most people cant even work out how to do mandy, thats why you find em sitting there fucked and unable to move there legs. Nearly all the problems related to drugas if not all the problems is down to over consumption, its so common today its just like binge drinking. As for G, it is one of the cleanest drugs there is, people that have trouble with it dont follow the rules, never ever drink alcohol with it and do it in moderation. no different with pills, you would not dance for six hours and drink nothing would you? No but half the people out there that dont follow the rules will happily stick six pints down em and 10 pills follow, why do they over heat and collapse? Ah it must be because they took crap pills, its never gonna be all the booze is it? As with any chemicals always have a buddy with you that knows what you have taken, never ever be afraid in a worse case scenario to tell the hospital what they have taken, and dont forget you are entitled to request ambulance personnel only when calling them, that way the police wiull not turn up.
Long and short of it, ask people about what you WANT to take, what are there experiences, how much do they consume, do they use the same supplier, do not listen to rumours, as above you do not ever get the real reason why it went wrong because no one wants to loose face.
Unfortunately no one will take any notice of the above as everyone thinks they are better and more knowledgeable than the next so these problems will always happen.
Also "G addictive" No. As with most things it is the "scenario" that is addictive.

No, it's not. Neither did I state that it was. Don't put words in my mouth.


Yes, it is - both psychologically and physiologically. I've seen people get addicted to it.

For more info: projectghb.org

montyy... biggest crock of shit av ever heard haha

alltho SOME parts make sense

Just reading this now, agree with you Padge

Are you for real..? GHB is safer and less addictive than ecstasy..

Away you go. My mate nearly died on GHB. At least MDMA is produced by actual chemists who have a clue what they are doing, rather than some daft prick trying to get the best homemade buzz they can. Sack that shit.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."