for the last couple of months it has been impossible to get hold of
real mdma or any pills with mdma in them, its all this fake trippy
crystals. but its not just my area its happening all over the country
apparently, i wanted to know if anyone out there is getting the same
as me. it seems like theres going to be an era of synthetic drugs all
pretending to be something there not. is it me or does anyone else
think that ecstasy has been completley wiped off the map??

Sorry, but scientifically speaking, that's bollocks. It's not just a question of mixing lots of chemicals in a pot and going, "Hey presto! MDMA!"

MDMA is synthesised by converting safrole into MDP2P, and there are two different ways of doing that (one direct, one by turning safrole into isosafrole first). MDP2P is reduced into MDMA, but if done incorrectly the same process can produce MDA, MDEA, or MBDB, any of which are similar enough to MDMA (either less empathic, less trippy, or both) to be judged to be "weak" rather than "fake" MDMA. There are legal restrictions on safrole and isosafrole, and trying to make MDMA without either is like trying to make Coca-Cola without water.

Most pills and crystal consumed in the UK come in from Europe, and the current "drought" has more to do with disrupted supply lines than an inability to do the chemistry.

You only just noticed, fookin ell they stopped putting the right stuff in them at the end of the 90s.

If its gone then to be honest that is it for me, I'm not going to go looking for some sort of shitty alternative. Fortunately for me I've done all the good pills I'm ever gonna do between 1995 - 2000 , & the MDMA that was around 4/5 years ago was amazing used to blow ur head off, nothing can ever better that in my opinion so I will just look back on it all with fondness. My enjoyment of the music that shaped my life isn't just going to disintegrate because I don't have drugs.

Ditto Keira

To be honest all these Research chemicals just confuse the hell out of me they don't even have street names their all a load of letters and numbers - my other halves younger brother is always banging on about some new drug or other and it just makes me feel about 100 , never mind good old E's & whizz :p Never thought I would see the day but thats life I guess ....

Have you tried Mephedrone? If not give it a blast ;)

What sorta prices is tha n wer ya get it from?

Jus read bout it, sounds alrite, legal too

never had a problem, havent had a dodgy pill in many years.
£2 each, Ive heard of some mad knock you off youre feet littleuns about for a tenner.

montyy what are you talking about? There are real MDMA pills about 4 for a tenner they're just hard to find. The love hearts are NOT BZP. I have seen them tested myself, MDMA, also smileys around Manchester Same price, also MDMA. BZP/McPP pills about are: hammers and spanners, stars, diamonds, batmans, and alot more, all no reaction to test kit. The hearts and smileys in Manchester are good though.

I think a load of dung best sums it up m8

sorry mate thats just crap LOL!!!11!!1111

oh no there not......... they are deffo mdma pills

Love Hearts
State/Province: South/South West London
Logo: Love Heart, Heart
Colour: White
Shape: Round
Texture: Well Pressed
Edges: Slightly rounded edge on bottom
Report Quality Rating: (5 stars, 3 votes)
Description: Very well pressed smallish pills. Heart on one side and slighty rounded on other. No score.
Suspected Contents: MDMA
Rating: MDxx Medium

until they make pips illegal there s always going to be this shit about if you look on the net you can buy kilos of the stuff in Ireland now they have banned it still hard to find a good sweet here because of the pip shit

yaba daba doo

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agreed, good pills days are over and now sadly mandy has followed! try mephodrone its really good!

More commonly known as Miaow, mow mow or top cat. I found out this was a legal high/research chemical.... I posted a forum about this last year when it hit the scene round here, seems to have taken off now big time but again sadly like most nice drugs is now getting cut with other various products, such as pharmaceutical caffiene, DMAA(geranium oil) like wtf? Also a price increase as it gets more popular & now a possible scedule 1 drug that might be banned in August . Shame cos mow is a nice clean buzz, after giving up on other chemicals that were once a nice buzz but now just to messed up, even base is cut to shite these days compared to the whizz of the old days.....

I dunno maybe it's time to just go raving straight!

There's no need for languge like that in this forum!
(ravers, cover your eye's!)

I think your forgeting theres more than 1 batch of lovehearts in the uk right now. I had some of the good lovehearts definatly mdma at the beginning of the year and my mate got some of the fake bzp crappy ones a couple of weeks ago which i refuse to take

ahhh right.......... can ya see the difference between the two?

yep seems to be completely dry everywhere, all the shottas say cause of some clampdown on safrole or something used to make it, whatever the reason, NOBODY BUY MD, its ALL, i repeat ALL shit the last four types tried all shit.....

if we all dont buy these shitty substitute md whatever it is, then the people behind it will eventually sort it out, whether it be 'supply lines' or safrole shortages, will sort it out somehow... too much money in it to leave it like this...... noone buy md anymore... legals for now...