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2cb-Fly alert!
If you have ordered any 2CB-FLY from Haupt-RC, throw it out. Do not use it. Its tanted with some other chemicals that have caused bad reactions and deaths.

The following trip reports:

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And warning:

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Sad news has reached us that the owner of the Danish research chemical company Haupt-RC has died on October 3rd, after the consumption of 18mg 2C-B-FLY.

Even though 2C-B-FLY has lead to deaths before, it is not logical that a dose of 18mg would have have fatal consequences. It is possible that the 2C-B-fly that Haupt-RC sold was tainted or mislabelled.

Haupt-RC sold 2C-B-FLY as a research chemical.

If you have bought product from this vendor then do NOT consume it nor let others consume it.

It is possible that HauptRC has sold 2C-B-FLY to other vendors. So it is advised to stay away from 2C-B-FLY.

This thread is an exception on our normal rule against sources discussion. This vendor is now defunct and the present danger presses us to ignore this rule.

Update:
Haupt-RC has added 2C-B-FLY as a new product to its assortment on Monday September 28th and the operator of the company died from consuming it on Saturday October 3rd. Between those dates Haupt-RC has sent out an unknown number of orders around the world.

Some of Haupt-RC's customers have been warned and thereby may have been saved from fatal ingestion. Unfortunately others have not been reached in time and have been hospitalised and died.

Unconfirmed sources have stated that this 2C-B-FLY was sourced from a Chinese producer. This Chinese producer may be selling to other Research Chemical vendors.

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Though mostly all RC's are illegal under the analogue act, keeping them unscheduled is highly important. If more people die (due to illegitimate drugs) it'll make the government wary of RC's leading to them being harder to obtain and having harsher punishments for their possession. This action will also make people push lower quality drugs into the market causing more harm/fatalities to their users. Just be aware of what you're putting into your body people.
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Posted Sat 24 Oct
never heard of this drug before, i know what 2cb is but whats 2cb-fly??
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Posted Sat 24 Oct
2C-B-FLY is an annalogue of 2C-B which could very possibly be sold as 2C-B itself or turn up as a pill adulterant in the near future, be very careful guys!
Its not the 2C-B-FLY however that is toxic but adulterants and impurities that ended up in this batch, with any luck this batch was fairly small and not much of it was sold and those who did buy it will do the responsible thing (as long as this message gets out) and disposed of it. Either way it shows that even chemicals brought from a fairly legit retailer and made in a clean lab environment can end up adulterated somewhere along the line.

Also just for the record this warning was a re-post from another message board and not my own words.
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Posted Sat 24 Oct
Edited Sat 24 Oct
thanks for the warnning mate i was actualy concidering gettin some from my source last week due to not being able to get 2cb at the moment - think ill order the 2ci and 5-meo-dmt instead.

thanks a lot - stay safe1
SEVER WARNNING ON THIS AND THANKS ALOT TO THE GUY WHO PUT THIS UP THE CHEMICAL TURNED OUT TO BE BORMODRAGONFLY WHICH EVEN 1MG IS A INTENCE DOSE AND SHOULD NEVER BE USED BY NON EXPERINCED PSYCHONOTS.

YOU COULD SAY THE PEOPLE GOT A GOOD DEAL BUT NOT WITH IT BEING LABELED AS 2C-B-FLY THIS IT JUST DEATHS WAITING TO HAPPEN AND GOD KNOWES HOW MANY PACKETS OF THIS STUFF WAS SENT OUT TO USERS. I A JUST HSPPY MYSELF AS I WAS CONCIDERING BUYING THIS VERY BATCH AND WOULD PROBABALY OF BEEN DEAD BY NOW IF I HAD.

I LOVE RC'S BUT THIS HAS GOT ME WORRYING A LITTLE ABOUT A FEW I HAVE SITTING HERE THAT I HAVE NOT TRIED ALTHO I HAVE YEARS OF SERVCE WITH MY SOURCS AND I HAVE TESTED THEM TO BE WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE NONE THE LESS ITS THE LAW THAT MAKES THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN. PSYCADELICS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE ONLY WHEN ALL MESSURES TO ENSURE QUALITY IS NOT TAKEN.!!

MORE INFORMATION BELOW. RIP TO THE USERS WHO HAVE DIED ONLY TRYIG TO EXPLORE THIS FUCKED UP WORLD FROM A DIFFRENT PERCPECTIVE - THE LAW HAS BLOOD ON THERE HANDS TODAY!!

45 PEOPLE INVITED SEND TO ALL YOUR BUDDIES - THIS IS A SAD DAY FOR THE RC COMUNITY :(
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Posted Sun 25 Oct
Edited Sun 25 Oct
2C-B-FLY is a psychoactive chemical in the phenylethlyamine family, which also contains MDMA. Just this morning, news broke that a bad batch of something purporting to be 2C-B-FLY has hit the streets and is killing or hospitalizing people with frightening consistency.

I say, “something purporting to be,” because people are being made sick with doses as low as 1-4 mg and being hospitalized with doses around 8-12 mg. A dealer who is reported to have taken an 18 mg dose died. It’s very unlikely that 2C-B-FLY would be active at all at 1-4 mg doses, so the powder in question is likely to be tainted, or something else entirely.

When things like this happen, law enforcement and the government usually jump to the message of how dangerous drugs are. I then respond that illegal drugs are made infinitely more dangerous by prohibition, which removes accountability between producers and consumers, and which forces producers to use less-than-ideal techniques to make the drugs. But this case is different. The “dealer” in this case was Haupt-rc, a legally-operating chemical supply company. These companies supply all sorts of chemicals, including illegal drugs, to research companies and others who are legally allowed to purchase them. The actual manufacturer of the chemical is reported to be a Chinese company. Below, you can see a 500 mg bag of the chemical in question, reported to have been purchased from Haupt-rc.

You can see that the label clearly prohibits “food, drug, household, or cosmetic use,” and notes “Dangerous if ingested!” That didn’t stop the owner of Haupt-rc from ingesting an 18 mg dose and subsequently dying, and it clearly didn’t stop some other people from ingesting the chemical either, so the most obvious conclusion we can draw from this experience is that people who are legally selling and buying psychoactive chemicals (for “research” uses) are illegally consuming those chemicals. I know, shocking, right? Hey, don’t tell me if you could legally buy a 500 mg bag of your favorite psychoactive chemical, you wouldn’t skim a few mg off the top for personal use. Oh, no, not YOU, you paragon of lawfulness.

The second, and more interesting conclusion is that here we have a case where the drug was produced in a totally above-board, legal, traceable manner, and people still managed to die from a bad batch. So, even the “professionals” get it wrong some time. But look at the difference between the response to this experience and the mostly-nonexistent response to another common tainted drug, cocaine cut with levamisol. In this case, people know the supplier and can quarantine the bad product, even down to the batch number, which is printed on the bag. Because they purchased it legally, they can send the stuff to a lab for analysis without fear of arrest. If this was a street product, all you would hear, if you heard anything, was, “Hey, watch out for 2C-B-FLY, I heard some people got sick after taking it and there might be a bad batch.” Instead, we get a massive, organized, immediate, and above-all, effective response that mitigates harm.

Edit: Analysis of the substance indicates that it was actually bromo-dragonfly, a chemical that is similar to 2C-B-FLY, but is active at much lower doses, hence the deaths at doses that are typical for 2C-B-FLY. The powder was also found to be only 95% pure (labeled as 99% pure, but we all know vendors fudge, right?) with about 5% synthesis impurities, which could have unknown effects. Additionally, the Chinese lab seems not to have been as “up to professional standards” as one might desire. The semi-clandestine nature of the Chinese lab means that prohibition still plays a role here, since there would be more, higher-quality sources for drugs in the absence of prohibition. What we have here is people using semi-legal means to acquire a prohibited chemical, but since the chemical is widely prohibited, there are few producers, and even the semi-legal ones are sketchy.

Jack Booted Liberal
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Posted Sun 25 Oct
Thanks - the link seem to be broken at the moment though. Read about this 2c-b Fly / bromo-dragonfly mishap on Bluelight as mentioned.
It's very sad indeed
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Posted Sun 25 Oct

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