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Hard House Academy - THANK YOU!
Hard House Academy - Wow what a night!

Thank YOU the Frantic Faithful! Thanks to everyone that attended HHA and making it yet another amazing Frantic night and helping us celebrate our 9th year of HHA. We hope you all had a great time at The O2 Academy Brixton and for those of you who are still carrying on at the afterparty, we hope you enjoy the crack on!

Thanks to all the DJs for performing, there were some really stand out sets including Welsh wizards Cally & Juice new LIVE PA.

Thanks to all the ticket sellers, crews and all staff who worked on the night to ensure the event was a success, we always appreciate what you do for Frantic.

Big thanks to O2 Academy Brixton Management, Staff and Security for accommodating us again for yet another HHA.

Thanks to all the Production teams for a stand out stage show, the lighting and sound was truly immense!

Thanks to Twisted Entertainment for such a fantastic performance! Also thanks to Twisted Bliss and Contagious Dancers.

Thank you to the film crew for filming the event including some hilarious artist interviews, watch this space for the video coming soon!

We loved the effort made with the Circus theme, there were some seriously freaky clown costumes and all sorts of different fun Circus outfits. We can't wait to see the photos!

We would like to apologise for those of you who waited in the ticket collection queue for longer than usual. Next time we will use the front entrance for those of you collecting your tickets for the event ensuring the process is a lot quicker.

We'd love to hear what you thought of this years HHA. Who rocked it for you? What did you think of this years production and performances? Please send any feedback you have to willfrantic@yahoo.co.uk.

Next up for Frantic is the massive NYE shindig at Hidden on Thursday 31st December, we're looking forward to moving into 2010 with you!

Early Bird tickets for the only NYE party to be at this year have SOLD OUT. £12 Super Saver tickets are selling at a fast rate so make sure you secure yours now. Saver Tickets for this event are priced at £18.

Link to Facebook event:
facebook.com

Also, before the end of the year we have another not to be missed event!

One AWsum Xmas – The 2nd Birthday Bash on Saturday 5th December at Hidden
Link to Facebook event:
facebook.com

Keep it Frantic!

Will, Chloe, Gordy and all at Frantic HQ
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Posted Sun 18 Oct

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The one thing Frantic have done is to totally stick Hardhouse to the back of their priorities with no thought or consideration of music policy or its respective fans

That is a load of shit right now...

Clearly there are a lot less hardstyle fans attending these events than there are hardhouse fans (who have made up Frantic's loyal fanbase for the part 10-12 years).

Thats quite an obvious statement as Frantic is known for Hard House. But I wud say Bionic is known for Hardstyle! Thing is they still play Hard House even tho people wud prefer Hardstyle but u have to accept that some might wanna hear a bit of Hard house/Trance...

grinding industrial hardstyle

I love the way u describe Hardstyle lol!! I wud love to hear wat u think of Dutch Hardcore and Terror-core. U'd probably shite urself listening to this stuff!!

lets just wait and see how quickly ticket sales are going to fall for any events where they insist on having hardhouse followed by hardstyle in the main room.

In the long run, u'll find that u will be in the minority. Who will stop attending events even tho Frantic will continue for years to come. I think u and many others are getting way, way ahead of urselves. Hardstyle is not gona finish Frantic lol. It'll only make Frantic much, much bigger than it already is...

The only solution is to either have seperate rooms

Best thing u've said in this essay!!
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
How about we have a room for each genre and have one artist (international/special guest) from each genre on the mainstage??
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
GolGotha said:
How about we have a room for each genre and have one artist (international/special guest) from each genre on the mainstage??

Does this include Terror!! Lol
Who laughed: GolGotha
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
That is a load of shit right now...

I don't think that statement is true, as a fair few people have said the same thing now . . .

But I wud say Bionic is known for Hardstyle!

Precisely. Frantic is known for hard house. Would Bionic give up 70% of their main room to hard house as was recently done at HHA?
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
GolGotha said:
How about we have a room for each genre and have one artist (international/special guest) from each genre on the mainstage??

Surely this would completely lose the flow/progression of the room?

Hence defeating the point?
Who laughed: TechnoShroom
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
But I wud say Bionic is known for Hardstyle!

ok i wanna reword my last statement;

probably around 70% of the main stage at HHA was hardstyle. and even DJs such as whitby, played a tougher sounding set (which im assuming must have been due to being sandwiched between hardstyle sets)

the question i would like to propose to you, as a hardstyle supporter who goes to Bionic and expects to hear hardstyle; how would you feel if you went to Bionic and the majority of your night was hard house?

this is the main argument here.
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
Catnip said:
Surely this would completely lose the flow/progression of the room?

ya know maybe it cud work . . . a point in the night where ya have i dunno, say two special guests or sumfin . . . one hard house to finish off the first half of the night and maybe a hardstyle DJ to see in the tail end of the night, with a harder sound?? i dont know if that makes sense. . .
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
Catnip said:
Surely this would completely lose the flow/progression of the room?

Hence defeating the point?

Not if it was done correctly

and even DJs such as whitby, played a tougher sounding set (which im assuming must have been due to being sandwiched between hardstyle sets)

No, he's just jumping on the band waggon....he donked Hardstyle at Frantic 12 which wasn't a "tougher sounding set"
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
GolGotha said:
Not if it was done correctly

Am dubious about how you could ever do this correctly tbh.....all I can think of is
GolGotha said:
donked Hardstyle
(great line :P)

in an attempt to make the hard house blend in to a hardstyle room, and hardstyle being tagged along at the end of a hard trance lineup...

At the end of the day there was always hardhouse playing somewhere at the Academy - the foyer constantly offered it, and as far as I'm aware did the vinyl only room

For an event that even if it's name doesn't state it - actually offers a spectrum of hard dance, rather than solely hard house - irrelevant of ideals etc surely it must offer what it sees to be the most popular genre on the main stage?

Whether or not it is the most popular genre is a matter of opinion, and only time will tell, but if a hard house main stage doesn't sell tickets, surely no one, however devoted to hard house they are, can be nearsighted enough to expect a promoter to keep on pushing something that isn't a feasible business plan?
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
Precisely. Frantic is known for hard house. Would Bionic give up 70% of their main room to hard house as was recently done at HHA?

Thing is HHA is once a year. Bionic do events once a month. Are you telling me on regular Frantic events they are playing 70% Hardstyle. I wuldn't think so...?

the question i would like to propose to you, as a hardstyle supporter who goes to Bionic and expects to hear hardstyle; how would you feel if you went to Bionic and the majority of your night was hard house?

I wud say Bionic used to be 100% Hardstyle(Maybe a bit of European Hard Trance) a few years back. It actually started out as a 'Hard House& Trance' event 9 years ago. But now the majority is Hardstyle but with Hard House/Hard Trance thrown in. Wat i'm saying is even tho it's a Hardstyle event it now caters for a wider audience with different genres(same as Frantic). Frantic is always, always gona be known as a Hard House event no-matter how much Hardstyle will increase. Same goes for Bionic. Thats how(imo) their brands are so big...

Every1 gets wat people are saying but I think u and many others shud just accept that Frantic will be pushing for the Harder styles and gettin bigger as they do(And they will). Frantic are not suddenly gona forget wat actually made them big. Jus coz uve ad a little taste of Hardstyle every1's goin nuts!
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
Frantic...

'We play only the most exciting hard, fast music – covering everything from driving UK Hard Trance to boshing European Hardstyle, to classic Bounce and full-on Filth, and all inbetween. The music in our scene is more diverse than ever and we are proud to represent its many colours and flavours!'
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
Jus coz uve ad a little taste of Hardstyle every1's goin nuts!

I used to love hardstyle, back in the day i was a hardstyle/ industrial/ noise freak!! (started with Hardcore, then started getting into hardstyle - i think that was Lucy's influence start of 2008 =P )

Then i became a little hard house raver an thats where i've been since... so im not 100% against it and i do agree that everything deserves fair airtime. but i think the main concern is frantic are kinda going more for what is popular right now - the big events have this year been very hardstyle influenced (Frantic 12, Frantic at Tranz-mission) I understand they are a business. . . but surely the best business plan for Frantic, if they wanna be airing the more euro sound would be to have seperate hardstyle events?! then theyre gonna catch both crowds.

to be honest with ya man, i would agree that there needs to be more hardstyle in london, cause you guys DONT have enough events by far, but the main concern is that we seem to be hearing less & less of what we want at frantic events.
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
Frantic is dead to be honest.
Who laughed: OriginalNutta
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Posted Fri 30 Oct
WOW! What a night and what an amazing response!

Hats off to the Frantic Team!

The stage production on this one was spot on! The very best I’ve seen for a while!
I wasn't in the main room all night but found more than enough to amuse myself throughout the building! Was great to see the addition of the vinyl only room and honoured I could be a part of it! I have a massive respect for vinyl and although play mostly CDs now I will never forget where it all started!
Memorable sets for the night... Cally, Aaron James and Kevsey D, Adam M and a truly beautiful set from the mighty Phil Rynolds!

As for the whole HHA dispute! Have we all forgotten our routes?

HHA has been running for 9 years! (Or did you miss that bit?)

In my eyes Hard House is the back bone of the Hard Dance industry! Many sub genres have grown from it but it is the one that has stood the test of time and always been there like a welcome friend! Personally I'm not so sure that Hard Style is the future of Hard Dance and seeing as most of the DJs throughout HHA where in fact Hard House I cant be sure Frantic believe that either!

True at Glow Ball we do have an old school feel but to deny the evolution of the Hard Dance scene would be mindless and I certainly wouldn’t expect to still be running the same event 9 years on!

With respect to everyone’s opinion... Feed back is always great! Its what the best events are built on!
But if you really think you can do better I urge you to try!

Once again Hats off to the Frantic Team!

Long Live HHA!
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Posted Sat 31 Oct
Frantic is dead to be honest.

Yes... obviously. Which is why they are putting on events at 3000+ capacity venues....

I can tell you're not a promoter, or even slightly aware of anything when it comes to running events!
Who laughed: Catnip
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Posted Sat 31 Oct
It's great to see so many people passionate about hardhouse, thats what i love about the music and the scene.

Things do need yo evolve for nights to continue though and i feel hardstyle defo has a place with hardhouse
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Posted Sat 31 Oct
The Future Sound of Frantic

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your comments and constructive feedback on the events.

This is to reiterate Will’s point regarding the music policy at Future Frantic events.

Will, Chloe and myself spend a lot of time and effort coming up with line ups that are fresh and exciting and cater for all Hard Dance fans.

A lot of people have emailed us requesting more Hardstyle at Frantic events and Hardstyle is an ever-increasingly popular genre in the UK so we will continue to support this genre.

HHA attracts people from all over the UK and Europe so this is why we went for more harder-edged DJs combined with the more traditional Hard House DJs.

However, we have listened to all your points raised and we will be careful to balance the music styles for Future Frantic events especially the larger arena events such as Koko, HHA and Trans-mission so there is an equal amount of music for all tastes including Hard House, Hard Trance and the European Harder Sounds.

We also always try to structure the set times so if there is a DJ playing the European / Hardstyle sounds in one arena then there will be a Hard House DJ playing in the other so everybody is happy.

For those who thought the main arena at HHA9 was quiet and that Hardstyle doesn’t have a place in London then check these pics out from when Cally & Juice were playing:









For Future Frantic NYE, each different style of music has their own separate rooms and as you can tell we have not made Hardstyle and the European Sound a priority. You can clearly see that there are 3 other rooms of Hard House and Hard Trance so we have catered for everybody and hope to see you all there :)



We also have a very special idea planned for you the ravers to get more involved with the events so please keep checking franticdsi.com for more details to be revealed.

If you have any further questions or suggestions regarding Frantic please feel free to email Willfrantic@yahoo.co.uk , Chloeleeks@mac.com or SimonEGordon@hotmail.co.uk
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Posted Sun 01 Nov
GolGotha said:
It's not really uplifting but it was the first thing that came into my head and it makes me hyper :D

Nahhhh you were right, it is incredibly uplifting :D and it made me hyper now! Haha fucking love that song.
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Posted Sun 01 Nov
Funny conversation I had once.....

Walking from room to room in a club once with one of my friends and FTS by showtek comes on.
Them: "Awesome I love this tune!!!" - commence bouncing
Me: "I know, it's wicked!!" - stomp stomp
Them: "Do you know who it's by?"
Me: "Yeah, Showtek, it's called FTS I think"
Them: "Cool!"
Me: "I thought you didn't like hardstyle"
Them: "I don't, I fucking hate hardstyle!"


Pidgeon-holing is killing people's enjoyment! Just shut up and dance ffs!
Who laughed: Tori-EcoWarriorSlut, OriginalNutta and GolGotha
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Posted Mon 02 Nov
but surely the best business plan for Frantic, if they wanna be airing the more euro sound would be to have seperate hardstyle events?! then theyre gonna catch both crowds

Hey all, good to see some good discussion going on here. As a promoter myself I think sometimes the clubber does overlook many aspects. The comment I've quoted above isn't a bad comment and in an ideal world maybe I'd be inclined to agree, but if a new event was created for every genre out there we'd end up with lots of very small events, rather than having spectacular events like HHA.

Every time a new genre or sub-genre is introduced there's the danger of splitting the crowd. Some may follow the new genre, others may stay faithful to the original but either way you'll find 2 smaller crowds are created out of the 1 big original crowd. Now imagine yet another sub-genre is created and this happens again. Diversity definitely is the key here, trying to cater for everyone's tastes. This will never please everyone as we can see from this thread, but will usually please the majority. Just look at Westfest on the weekend, I don't know the actual figures but it sold out and I'm sure there were over 10,000 people there. And the key to their success is definitely diversity, catering for several genres of music at 1 big event.

I know sometimes comments on forums often make things look worse than they actually are, as in my experience people who have something bad to say are a lot more outspoken than someone who would have something good to say. In fact remember the majority DON'T post on forums. Not saying that we shouldn't listen to posts on forums as it's an essential way to get feedback, but Frantic and indeed all other promoters also need to weigh it up with the feedback they receive from elsewhere.

Also please don't forget your roots, all the current styles of hard dance have all come from the same beginnings, but have changed over the years as new ideas have been introduced, and if that hadn't happened I'm sure you'd all be very bored by now of listening to the same style over and over. Nostalgia sometimes makes music sound better than it actually is because of the memories associated with it, but music has definitely progressed and thanks to high production values and better technology, the music as a whole is now more exciting than ever.

One last thing please note the times we're in. Events are generally quieter than normal across the board. This has nothing to do with line-ups or styles of music. This is the global recession (created by the media IMO but don't get me started on that, lol!). As Gordy's kindly pointed out during our set the main arena at HHA was full, as you can clearly see from the pics. Although some people think of us as hardstyle DJs (the hardstyle purists would definitely disagree here, lol!), we play quite a broad spectrum of music and don't like to pigeon-hole ourselves down to one genre, again which is why I think we kept the room so busy.

Feedback is essential and an event should always listen to it's punter but please check out a flyer before the event and remember there is nearly always more than 1 room at most dance events. If you're not liking something, don't stay there then hit the forum first thing on a Monday to complain about it. Have a wander around and see what else is going on first, and you're guaranteed a better night ;)

Thanks to all at Frantic, the event was a big success IMO!
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