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Come on Frantic whats going on....
Unfortunately, a lot of people thought that HHA was a bit of a shambles....

The line up was lacking, why not Farley in the main room???? why not Rob Tissera for the main event, he would have rocked it, he wiped the floor at the after party.

The clue is in the event name Hard House acadamy....... why so much hard style, stop trying to be fashionable and stick to what people want.

Frantic is losing its loyalty, from what it used to be, good name djs playing good quality music, no gimmicks.

Come on Guys ............... before its too late ........
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Posted Sun 18 Oct
Totally agree.
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
I loved it last night, fair enough i am not keen on hard style and a bit more hard house would have been good, but i have been going to frantic for a few years now and last night rocked xxx
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
I do agree - too much HARDSTYLE! frantic shud be about the hard house, and the events have changed a lot in the last few years i've been going to them. . . for me hard style is an angry, aggressive form of music and brings a darker side to the event and this is NOT what frantic used to be about.

I cnt be totally anti-frantic. i have had an amazing few nights at some of their events, and still managed to have a good night (despite being absolutely freezing) in the filth foyer.

I just feel that for HARD HOUSE ACADEMY, i shudnt have to be in the FOYER to get some good hard house.... i've spoken to a lot of my friends who are now saying they wont do frantic again which is a bloody shame.

Even if the last few hours in the main room were hard style - i feel a good 80% of the main arena was hard style . . .

please, please please sort it out frantic - maybe u guys cud start throwing seperate hard style events if thats how you want to go . . . but one comment i heard last night really stood out to me - "frantic are going to kill hard house in london"

dont let that comment come true.....i know a lot of people i've seen over the years are dropping like flies. . . .
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
Hmm, perhaps I'm going to be Hanged - LOL!

I can see your point, I normally go to Bionic in Newport, Wales.

The Main Genre is mainly Hardstyle (which is my XTC), but they do Invite Various DJ's who Do Mix the Genres, i.e. Hardstyle, Hard-Trance and Hard-House. These DJ's always Slam and I have yet to hear a complaint.

Quite a few times the DJ's who normally play @ Frantic Events come down & I haven't heard a complaint!

Oh by the way Lisa Pin-Up will be one of the Headliners NYE and I know she'll Blow The Place.

I will say just to hear One Genre for 8 or more hours I admit can be boring!
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
Did the line up not prepare you in advance? Hardstyle DJ's that play hard style - to be expected really!

Awesome night - loved every bit of it (apart from the cue!)
Who laughed: LeeMushroom, Tori-EcoWarriorSlut, TechnoShroom, GolGotha and Ravin-Rom
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
Dan-Smiff said:
Did the line up not prepare you in advance?

Who was in the Line-Up?
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
Afraid to say that if you don't read the ingredients, you may find it contains nuts.

The event was not billed as Hardstyle, however if you read any of the thousands of DSi posts, E-Flyers, Facebook, etc leading up to the event, you'd have to be living under a rock with no internet connection not to know there was a strong presence of European style on the lineup.

for me hard style is an angry, aggressive form of music and brings a darker side to the event and this is NOT what frantic used to be about.

Don't confuse Passion and enthusiasm with aggression and darkness. Yes, Hardstyle is hard but is also uplifting, it requires a different style of dancing, those heavy hardstyle kicks and basses makes you want to punch the air, but rest assured the Hardstyle fans I know are amongst the friendliest people I know, especially in London.
D4RK said:
Don't confuse Passion and enthusiasm with aggression and darkness. Yes, Hardstyle is hard but is also uplifting, it requires a different style of dancing, those heavy hardstyle kicks and basses makes you want to punch the air, but rest assured the Hardstyle fans I know are amongst the friendliest people I know, especially in London.

Well put D4RK, of course there are undertones to Hardstyle, some are Spooky, some are Naughty, some are Just Amusing, but it's all Mixed with a Sense Of Humour!

To meet some of these Hardtsyle Nutters you may get the wrong impression, but as D4RK stated, you'd be Hard Pushed to meet such an Open-Minded, Friendlier Crowd of People:

Hence I am still aiming to meet some of these people on their Home Turf in London next month!
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
Edited Mon 19 Oct
D4RK said:
Don't confuse Passion and enthusiasm with aggression and darkness. Yes, Hardstyle is hard but is also uplifting, it requires a different style of dancing, those heavy hardstyle kicks and basses makes you want to punch the air, but rest assured the Hardstyle fans I know are amongst the friendliest people I know

Agreed... :)
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
I guess I'm just a bounce kid but for me hard house academy should really have the main arena as hard house, otherwise arent frantic kinda giving the night the wrong title?

dont get me wrong,i know a lot of the hardstyle crowd and i know theyre wikkid people, but i jus think its not really what id wanna expect when i hit hard house academy ya know? i'm sad at the way hard house is going at any rate - its not the same hard house i started raving to five years ago and the sound is definitely changing a lot . . .

I guess I shud have looked at the flyer properly - but even whitby seemed to be playing a harder, darker sorta sound! i dunno, maybe im just set in my ways and miss the old skool days!
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
And to be fair, MDA & Spherical, Klubfiller, Whitby, Kutski, Phil reynolds? they're not really hard style DJs.... but i found it hard after cally to hear anything that had a bouncy beat to it. after cally had finished everything seemed to be a lot harder an darker!
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
D4RK said:
Don't confuse Passion and enthusiasm with aggression and darkness. Yes, Hardstyle is hard but is also uplifting, it requires a different style of dancing, those heavy hardstyle kicks and basses makes you want to punch the air, but rest assured the Hardstyle fans I know are amongst the friendliest people I know, especially in London.

Well said !!!
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
its not the same hard house i started raving to five years ago and the sound is definitely changing a lot . . .

Thank fuck it does change though, often a complaint with many harder styles is that they don't change often enough, obviously you can't please everyone.

maybe im just set in my ways and miss the old skool days!

I agree things often look better through rose tinted spectacles, but unfortunately I smashed mine about 15 years ago..!

Not time for horlicks and slippers quite yet myself... :)
Who laughed: Chemon-live-for-NRG
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
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- its not the same hard house i started raving to five years ago and the sound is definitely changing a lot . . .

I guess I shud have looked at the flyer properly - but even whitby seemed to be playing a harder, darker sorta sound!

I used to be into Olde-Skool, then I Progressed (not Regressed - LOL!) to Hard-House then, Hard-Trance, realised there is: Hardstyle (with it's Humour) too!

Yes I had noticed a lot of Hard-House DJ's are making their Mixes sound Harder with some Dark Undertones, perhaps they are Going More UNDERGROUND which is Kool.

Honestly would you want to cater to the masses, meaning the type of people who don'd care a fuck what is playing as long as they can get pissed?
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
sorry have to point out something , hardstyle and london do not fit in the friendly chapter at all. there was such a moody atmosphere in the place. (cant beat the hard house and midlands crew)

the event was nothing to be excited about, i left at 230am then went back cos the taxi was charging a fortune. only reason i stayed till 6am.

the foye was the best music yet crammed in the tiny corner, no decor, no atmosphere just a let down xxx
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
D4RK said:
Afraid to say that if you don't read the ingredients, you may find it contains nuts.

Dan-Smiff said:
Hardstyle DJ's that play Hardstyle - to be expected really!

Agreed.

Even whitby seemed to be playing a harder, darker sorta sound!

This would be Andy Whitby jumping on the Hardstyle waggon....

WEEEMZ said:
Sorry have to point out something, Hardstyle and London do not fit in the friendly chapter at all

I would have to dissagree with that! I co run Octane, (which is a night in London dedicated to the Harder Styles of Dance Music....such as Hardstyle!) and there was no trouble what so ever! The atmosphere was extremely relaxed and positive. People just went for the music, and not with the aim of getting completely smashed or causing trouble!
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
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WEEEMZ said:
hardstyle and london do not fit in the friendly chapter at all. there was such a moody atmosphere in the place

I have to disagree on this - I was disappointed by the atmosphere last year, when there was a much more hard house/hard trance lineup, but simply put it down to a much more commercial drinking crowd, as you would expect at such a large scale event, and certainly not a representation of the average crowd at say Hidden on a Saturday night - this year, in my mind certainly, was a vast improvement. :)

As far as I can see those who associate Hardstyle with any "moody atmosphere" are generally those who don't enjoy it - yes it is hard, and yes there is a hefty bass to it, but surely similar could be said about watching a cpl of hundred people stomping furiously to filth at Twist on a Sunday morning?

As has been said elsewhere,

D4RK said:
Don't confuse Passion and enthusiasm with aggression and darkness
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
Catnip said:
but simply put it down to a much more commercial drinking crowd, as you would expect at such a large scale event

Exactly! Me and Steinbeck were disscussing at Harder Nation (HHA Afterparty) that nearly all Hardstyle "fans" are sober at Events...which would explain the no trouble side ;-)
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Posted Mon 19 Oct
I think HHA is always a fairly commercial event anyway; a dont get the propa crowd in there - it was kinda da same with timeless and koko, ya get different crowds in there cause they're bigger venues.... i';ve still yet to see any trouble at any events i go to (except d&b but thats a different story all together!) most hard house ravers are the loving huggy kind . . . not trouble causers
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Posted Mon 19 Oct

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