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The Mass Debate: What is better… hard house or hard trance and hardstyle?

In advance of Frenzy vs Resonate, the two promo teams went to the pub and had a discussion about what is best. Hard house or hard trance/ hardstyle? Needless to after a few pints and a fight in the carpark, we decided to let the clubbers settle the matter. This is what we think, we’d like to get your views.

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The Mass Debate: What is better… hard house or hard trance and hardstyle?
It's the hot topic on Barack Obama's lips.
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Posted Tue 20 Jan
Edited Tue 20 Jan

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Getting beaten up by a ginge is never clever

Not clever but not necessarily avoidable, ginger birds are well aggressive if they're on or had a drink! Fuck Scottish night life!
Who laughed: John-Black-Implosion
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
but they are not hardstyle djs or producers

They`ve produced Hardstyle have they not?
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
thing is...

i love hardstyle..played it for years....but the stupid fairly tale style riffs do my head..


so i agree thats shit....but the good stuff is far better than hardhouse...ive never ever ever ever liked hardhouse....except bks revolution.

but on a global scale...hard house loses as its leat popular around the globe.
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
They`ve produced Hardstyle have they not?

honestly...no...when it comes to the rules of hardstyle and the way its meant to be made..

no never once mate...

even the mario brothers tune is hard hard trance...none of the productions follow the rules of hardstyle.

dont mean what they have produced aint any good by the way.

but i will repeat...90% of dutch hardstyle is bollox......this coming from a hardstyle dj.
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
Edited Wed 21 Jan
i also thing the immergence of the NU -STYLE hard style with the hardcore kicks has hurt hardstyle.


years ago hardstyle...was just harder hard trance...but its moved on...and the dutch stuff has mostly gone very very cheesy..

where as the italian stuff has some what remained more brutal....

but with hardstyle producers being mostly sheep..cos if the biggest dj producers cheese...the rest follow...

but...italy rules the way..

but...hardtrance has also changed to this techy BOLLOX which gets to me as well...

bring back 2002 :o)

lol
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
Thats a good idea :P

Don't wish to piss on your fire John Black, but you weren't the first club promoter in the UK to initially come up with progressing a night through different styles of music.

Despite what you might think.
Who laughed: John-Black-Implosion and Slinky-Ralph
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
i still think hard trance 1st then hard house then hardstyle

but if you put on the hard house 1st then i get to be in bed by 2am ;o)
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
Despite what you might think.

easy tiger lol

just think he was agreeing :o)


plus i know other big clubs that never get that bit right........ive seen hardstyle on first then followed by trance..followed hardhouse followed by trance...time and time again.

I thought goodgreef thats shocking lol
Who laughed: Slinky-Ralph
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
just think he was agreeing :o)

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
I thought goodgreef thats shocking lol

clever use of words

but i agree lol
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
.....bring back the X-files
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
clever use of words

but i agree lol

i peaked right there lol......all down here from now on haha
Who laughed: John-Black-Implosion
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
Despite what you might think.

Before anyone gets the wrong end of the stick... this is a joke between John and I from the Summer.

If I was a gayer it would be John, John, and more John. That's how much I love the man.
Who laughed: Slinky-Ralph
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
cool lol
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
but you weren't the first club promoter in the UK to initially come up with progressing a night through different styles of music.

I never said i was did i?

but if you put on the hard house 1st then i get to be in bed by 2am ;o)

You wasnt in bed by 2am on Saturday were you? :P

Before anyone gets the wrong end of the stick... this is a joke between John and I from the Summer.

Is it? Oh yeah.....Hahahahahaha

If I was a gayer it would be John, John, and more John. That's how much I love the man.

And if i was a gayer, unfortunately you wouldnt be my type
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
I never said i was did i?

You know what I'm getting at you cheeky hunk of love.
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
Anyways, enough of the excitement - back to the topic eh.

none of the productions follow the rules of hardstyle.

What are those rules mate?
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
What are those rules mate?

1. Film sample from a German porno
2. Have the letters "sch" and "z" at least twice in the title

I think that covers it?
Who laughed: Andy-RM
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
What are those rules mate?

the structure of the track, the actually sounds used, ie screeches, the vst that are used, things like the reversed bassline, the kicks, and the actually melodies them selfs, how the tracks builds..how the breaks in the track a written.

i wasnt aware of any of this lol...til i joined the global hardstyle forum...producers get ripped apart on there for not following the rules of hardstyle....other wise they just class it as either..hard trance or if its not written right its hardcore (euro style)

damn them fussy dutch types..
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Posted Wed 21 Jan
1. Film sample from a German porno
2. Have the letters "sch" and "z" at least twice in the title

I think that covers it?

and a stupid fairy tale melody lol..
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Posted Wed 21 Jan

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