Is this still a man's world?

This article is about TIMELESS Romance @ The Colosseum in London (UK), Sat 10 Feb 2007

Girls. The fairer sex eh? Multi-taskers are they? Well to be fair of them, they’ve done bloody well for themselves in a heavily male-dominated industry and have shown that they can do dance music just as well as the guys can. And why the hell not! But have we really reached total gender equality in terms of male and female DJs yet? As Frantic & Nu Religion team up for Timeless Romance on February 10th at The Colosseum, with a Valentine’s themed Boys Arena and a Girls Arena, we ask: is there still a glass ceiling for women in dance music?

Unfortunately there are still some people who want to make a distinction between male and female DJs for all the wrong reasons. The Shejay Top 100 Women DJs Poll, although good-natured, certainly didn’t help in the quest for equality. If the concern was that not enough female DJs were showing up in the DJ Mag Top 100 DJs Poll (the industry standard), then surely creating a separate contest for women only is like saying that they can’t stand up against male competition? Not helping the cause one bit if you ask me. Matthew Duffield of Sedition DJs recognises that there are still people working in dance music who refuse to see female DJs as equals to male DJs. “Just as there is in most aspects of life unfortunately, there is still prejudice. Dance music is no different in that respect but a lot better than other fields that's for sure.”

For most the part though, the “are male and female DJs any different?” argument seems to have been put to bed. The Gallery’s house resident Tania von Pear highlights the current strength of women in dance music. “Although there was a frightening lack of females in the last Top 100, there are more fantastic women on the scene now then ever before. Each genre has outstanding talent from techno’s Mistress Barbara to minimal’s Tania Vulcano to house’s Sarah Main and of course Radio 1’s two Annie’s!” How to explain the DJ Mag Top 100 situation then? Obviously the poll isn’t an indication on the true popularity of DJs, and more an open-to-abuse vote for readers of the magazine, but as the most high-profile poll of sorts, its results can have somewhat of a knock-on effect.

One possibility is cultural differences across the globe – with the majority of votes coming from Holland and the US, you’ve got to ask whether DJ gender equality is the same the world over. “That’s a hard one” says Tania. “I was the first girl DJ in India and they certainly were amazed that a girl would be doing it as I had a massive amount of interest from the mainstream press like The Times and Asian Age. I’ve seen girls coming through from other countries like DJ Lucca from Czech Republic but I know she has a UK manager so it’s difficult to say.” Slinky and Tidy starlet Kym Ayres, who is playing at Timeless Romance, says her experiences as a woman in the industry has only made a superficial difference. “I think I get asked out by more men than if I was a bloke, but I think the whole “female DJs get treated differently to male DJs” thing is a thing of the past now. It's not so uncommon to be a bird and be able to mix”

The rise of the internet has probably helped to diminish the strength some of the traditional gender-based identities that have been assigned to the ancient art of DJing. The often snobby, trainspotterish ambience of the independent record shop has now been largely replaced by the more “democratic” process of online MP3 shopping. No longer just a hobby obsessively pursued by geeks and purists, it’s now something that is readily available to people all over the world. .

Looking at different scenes in dance music, it becomes apparent that some are more male-dominated than others. At one end of the scale – hard dance, with large number of female DJs, with many being the biggest names in the scene. At the other end – drum ‘n’ bass, with hardly any well-known female jocks springing to mind apart from Storm. Maybe the ratios will change more in years to come, but why does the situation differ so vastly? If you look at the history of these two scenes, you can get an idea. Hard dance evolved from the tough house and proto-trance sounds at the legendary gay club Trade – a place where women could go and be free from the lecherous advances of blokes, as they would endure in straight clubs. The drum ‘n’ bass scene experienced frequent bouts of violence as it grew in the mid ‘90s, perpetuating an über-macho atmosphere that didn’t appeal to many girls. Of course things have changed over the years for DnB, but this is still the likely explanation.

On a wider scale, the historic dominance of male DJs in the industry could well be a by-product of the inherent structure of the dance music game. The first major clubs in the UK and around the world were owned and managed by men, and likewise with record labels (with several notable exceptions – Sugarhill and Def Mix for example) – so it’s a trend that goes way back. And why does this trend exist in the first place? Well if I go down that road we’ll be here all day...

The world of production certainly doesn’t seem to be as equal in gender terms as the DJ world does quite yet. Again, the technical/geek aspect of production something that is traditionally prescribed as being a “boy” thing, but in this day and age of the female technophile it’s still surprising. It will be interesting to see how this situation progresses, and how long it is before world-famous female producers are a regularity rather than an occasional occurrence. I say, let’s put this discussion to bed here and now – scrap the Shejay Top 100 – and let the only difference between male and female DJs be a physical one. Mind you, it would probably help people to forget about this topic of discussion if that Niki Belucci would put her tits away!

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Nicki Belluci should keep em out I reckon! ha ha, good article!
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
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Agreed , top work !!
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
scrap the Shejay Top 100 – and let the only difference between male and female DJs be a physical one. Mind you, it would probably help people to forget about this topic of discussion if that Niki Belucci would put her tits away!

Couldn't put it better myself mate end the Shejay top 100 it's insulting.
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
think she should think about washing her hair than getting her tits out
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
ah ha ha
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
Good article.. defo scrap the shejay top 100... why seperate male and female djs?!

female DJs get treated differently to male DJs” thing is a thing of the past now. It's not so uncommon to be a bird and be able to mix

;O)
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
wicked and I my eyes the girls that are there are just as good as the boys :) just less of em but as they say it's quality not quantity xx
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
female dj's have tits and flange therefore they are much better than male dj's imo.


and keep the shejay top 100 cos any monkey can mix its all about being the fittest chick in a pair of headphones!

mmmm she jays!
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
thanks for the comments people!
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
can I have the photo with the tits in it after you've finished with it please mate? hehehe
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
its all true, an it takes time... i think for me its too many raves/parties where someones gf has been pushed onto the decks and made a fool of herself that spoilt it for me, cos even now (im ashamed to say) i often double take when i see a member of the other sex jump on the decks and rip it up. Point in case at a united sounds of bristol party a few months ago, thought 'oh she doesn't look like a gabba dj' only to have myself royally shook down by the filth that was played out.

It'll change, through the efforts of the highly talented mistresses that are making themselves heard, an when it does it can't be too soon.
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
Another interesting read Benz, you're a dab handy at these insightful articles... I agree the separate female top 100 list should be scrapped and the original DJ top 100 should be a mixed list with both male and female DJ's. Why separate the two sexes? TBH I'm not sure what to make of the separate boys and girls thing at Timeless Romance, isn't Valentine's day supposed to be about the two different sexes coming together? Not dividing them in two, lol.

As for Belluci, sorry but a female DJ who gets them out to mix would not be a deciding factor for me to go see them... maybe for all of a few seconds...
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
a kno mate.love the woman who play it hard
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
While I agree and see your point, I dont think the Shejay top 100 should be scrapped...

I don't think it says that female DJs can't be compared to guys - it simply shows the world there are much more than 100 female DJs so they should stop thinking we're a rarity!

It also gives female DJs a platform to get noticed when they otherwise wouldnt, as we usually get bookings because promoters want a novelty gimmick - not a good dj. In my experience there is still a lot of sexism in the industry - I hope that one day we can be treated as total equals - by being accepted as DJ's, not 'female DJs'... or being treated as a mate of a male promoter, rather than a potential lay!

I think it's men's opinions that fuel that... and female DJs that use their bodies to sell themselves as DJs (they should sell themselves in another way!) - not sites dedicated to supporting and understanding what female DJs face in our jobs.

Anyway, I think all top 100's should be scrapped! I dont pay much attention to them at all, as all they are is a ranking of who got the most people to vote for them, or who paid a hacker to rig the DJ mag votes!

Oh and one last thing, I bought www.girldjs.com - but also bought www.guydjs.com so I can't be accused of sexism ;oP
Just need to work out what to do with them now!
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
Good article, well written with some valid points :) As Anna says, keep it and it helps get peeps noticed who wouldn't of otherwise.

Like your hardcore? Here is a cheeky link ;) Hehe!
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
good read nearly all of my fav DJ'S are female,Lisa pin-up me fav then lashes,anne savage it doesent bother me who's spinin da tunes as long as they make me STOMP da nite away:-)
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
I dont like the divide between male & female dj's.
And with regards to female dj's who get their boobs out, women have finally started being taken seriously as DJ 's, its a shame theres some who lower the tone. Kick our progress back to the stoneage why dont you. Maybe we can regain our credibility again over the next decade *rolls eyes*
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Posted Fri 02 Feb 2007
Anna - totally disagree I'm afraid.

Can't you see that making female DJs have a separate poll is somewhat belittling? It's like saying "hey, sorry you didn't make it into the real poll - but here's one where you're guaranteed a place!"

Things will never be totally equal if people feel the need to emphasise the divide between men and women.

And I think anyone with even a slight knowledge of dance music knows that female DJs aren't a rarity anymore...
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Posted Sat 03 Feb 2007
Well my experiences tell me otherwise! I still get that "wow ur a female DJ" bull from male DJs, punters & promoters.

In 2004 I was voted 5th in the Best Female DJ category in the Peoples Choice awards - and while I was chuffed, what I really wanted was recognition in the Best DJ category, so I DO hear what you're saying. Who can say that without a Female DJ category, would any of us girls have appeared in the Best DJ category? I very much doubt so, as we are separated, or not noticed or taken seriously by most.

Anyway, ifs and buts aside - from my experiences I feel, as DJ Dephonix so VERY well put it - Its the female DJs who bring another element into it, that do a lot more damage than the Shejay poll does.
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Posted Sat 03 Feb 2007
what a fantastic article and i think its very true this world is changing very fast the dj world is no longer a mans world there are female djs popping up from all parts of the world and most have already seen success on another note there are many more things that women are slowly stepping into take me for instance i have just started a new job and yes i class this as another thing that people class as a mans job (ROOFING)+(LANDSCAPING)I was 60ft up in the air today fitting guttering and lead to a church roof. And you know what i love it.
Back to the point this world is changing fast people are getting cleverer and there is no such thing as a house wife anymore as the world has changed that much now that in most house holds male and females are swapping roles.
Oh yes men are creeping in to what used to be known as a womens world etc cooking cleaning,washing and drying,taking the kids to school so i would just like to say 1 thing.

come on girls open your eyes and step out there there is so much more things that we as women could be doing there is no i cant anymore
the words are now
i can so lets go and change the face of this world today.
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Posted Sat 03 Feb 2007

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